From: "Brendan Jackman" <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 01/16] set_memory: set_direct_map_* to take address
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 15:08:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJJ2QJQQ73CM.2WHKW4AT6QT1D@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7a40359-a210-4711-acba-677e9c1d565c@kernel.org>
On Fri Jun 26, 2026 at 2:58 PM UTC, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 6/26/26 16:38, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> On Tue Apr 21, 2026 at 2:43 PM UTC, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 03:17:58PM +0000, Kalyazin, Nikita wrote:
>>>> From: Nikita Kalyazin <nikita.kalyazin@linux.dev>
>>>>
>>>> Let's convert set_direct_map_*() to take an address instead of a page to
>>>> prepare for adding helpers that operate on folios; it will be more
>>>> efficient to convert from a folio directly to an address without going
>>>> through a page first.
>>
>> Why is this more efficient? Isn't it a purely compile-time conversion?
>>
>> Indeed in the current implementation folio_address() is
>> page_address(&folio->page) so it still goes through a page anyway, no?
>>
>> I might be missing context here about how this will look in the
>> memdesc future.
>
> Good question. page_address() is really only complicated for highmem. For
> non-highmem stuff it's simply derived from the page pfn.
>
> I suspect going page -> pfn will remain as efficient as it currently is (with
> vmemmap). For odd cases (SPARSEMEM without VMEMMAP) going through folio->pfn [1]
> might be slighty faster.
>
> [1] https://kernelnewbies.org/MatthewWilcox/Memdescs/Path
Ah sorry I raced with you and replied to myself:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/DJJ2NKKPRANG.188CUADJO2CKK@linux.dev/
The above makes me realise that if we really do want to avoid needing a
struct page here, the "right" thing would be to make this API accept a
PFN.
The problem would be that our favourite programming language we use
doesn't know the difference between `unsigned long addr` and `unsigned
long pfn`... but I thiiiiink its unlikely those bugs will be latent,
I've made that mistake a few times and my computer usually let me know
about it.
Still, I'm not really convinced we need to change anything here yet
(modulo fuzziness about memdesc etc).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-10 15:17 [PATCH v12 00/16] Direct Map Removal Support for guest_memfd Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:17 ` [PATCH v12 01/16] set_memory: set_direct_map_* to take address Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 14:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-26 14:38 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-26 15:08 ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2026-06-26 15:04 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 02/16] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 03/16] mm/secretmem: make use of folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 04/16] mm/gup: drop secretmem optimization from gup_fast_folio_allowed Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 05/16] mm/gup: drop local variable in gup_fast_folio_allowed Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 06/16] mm: introduce AS_NO_DIRECT_MAP Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 07/16] KVM: guest_memfd: Add stub for kvm_arch_gmem_invalidate Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 08/16] KVM: x86: define kvm_arch_gmem_supports_no_direct_map() Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 09/16] KVM: arm64: " Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 16:55 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-26 14:45 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 10/16] KVM: guest_memfd: Add flag to remove from direct map Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 17:08 ` Frank van der Linden
2026-05-08 8:18 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-14 16:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 11/16] KVM: selftests: load elf via bounce buffer Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 12/16] KVM: selftests: set KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD in vm_mem_add() if guest_memfd != -1 Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 13/16] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd based vm_mem_backing_src_types Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-06-26 14:22 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 14/16] KVM: selftests: cover GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_NO_DIRECT_MAP in existing selftests Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 15/16] KVM: selftests: stuff vm_mem_backing_src_type into vm_shape Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 16/16] KVM: selftests: Test guest execution from direct map removed gmem Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v12 00/16] Direct Map Removal Support for guest_memfd Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 16:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-06 8:07 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-26 16:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Brendan Jackman
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