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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, yzaikin@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, feng.tang@intel.com,
	siglesias@igalia.com, kernel@gpiccoli.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] panic: Allow printing extra panic information on kdump
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd/qmyz+qSuoUwbs@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211109202848.610874-4-gpiccoli@igalia.com>

On Tue 2021-11-09 17:28:48, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> Currently we have the "panic_print" parameter/sysctl to allow some extra
> information to be printed in a panic event. On the other hand, the kdump
> mechanism allows to kexec a new kernel to collect a memory dump for the
> running kernel in case of panic.
> Right now these options are incompatible: the user either sets the kdump
> or makes use of "panic_print". The code path of "panic_print" isn't
> reached when kdump is configured.
> 
> There are situations though in which this would be interesting: for
> example, in systems that are very memory constrained, a handcrafted
> tiny kernel/initrd for kdump might be used in order to only collect the
> dmesg in kdump kernel. Even more common, systems with no disk space for
> the full (compressed) memory dump might very well rely in this
> functionality too, dumping only the dmesg with the additional information
> provided by "panic_print".

Is anyone really using this approach? kmsg_dump() looks like a better
choice when there are memory constrains. It does not need to reserve
memory for booting the crash kernel.

I would not mind much but this change depends on a not fully reliable
assumption, see below.

Also it will also complicate the solution for the kmsg_dump() code path.
It would be better to discuss this togeter with the other patch
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220106212835.119409-1-gpiccoli@igalia.com


> So, this is what the patch does: allows both functionality to co-exist;
> if "panic_print" is set and the system performs a kdump, the extra
> information is printed on dmesg before the kexec. Some notes about the
> design choices here:
> 
> (a) We could have introduced a sysctl or an extra bit on "panic_print"
> to allow enabling the co-existence of kdump and "panic_print", but seems
> that would be over-engineering; we have 3 cases, let's check how this
> patch change things:
> 
> - if the user have kdump set and not "panic_print", nothing changes;
> - if the user have "panic_print" set and not kdump, nothing changes;
> - if both are enabled, now we print the extra information before kdump,
> which is exactly the goal of the patch (and should be the goal of the
> user, since they enabled both options).
> 
> (b) We assume that the code path won't return from __crash_kexec()
> so we didn't guard against double execution of panic_print_sys_info().

This sounds suspiciously. There is small race window but it actually works.
__crash_kexec() really never returns when @kexec_crash_image is
loaded. Well, it might break in the future if the code is modified.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-13  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-09 20:28 [PATCH 0/3] Some improvements on panic_print Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-11-09 20:28 ` [PATCH 1/3] docs: sysctl/kernel: Add missing bit to panic_print Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-11-30  5:09   ` Feng Tang
2021-11-09 20:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] panic: Add option to dump all CPUs backtraces in panic_print Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-11-30  5:12   ` Feng Tang
2021-12-03 15:09     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-19 20:11       ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-20 12:38         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-21 23:48           ` Andrew Morton
2021-12-22 12:37             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-13  9:31   ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-09 20:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] panic: Allow printing extra panic information on kdump Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-22 11:45   ` Dave Young
2021-12-22 12:34     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-24  1:35       ` Dave Young
2021-12-25 19:21         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-27  1:45           ` Dave Young
2021-12-27  3:14             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-13  9:02   ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2022-01-13 13:00     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-27 16:53     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-02-08 18:12       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-02-08 21:39         ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-02-09 15:06           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-02-09 23:26             ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-02-10 12:50               ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] Some improvements on panic_print Guilherme G. Piccoli
2021-12-14 16:31   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli

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