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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Jithu Joseph <jithu.joseph@intel.com>,
	hdegoede@redhat.com, markgross@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, ashok.raj@intel.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, ravi.v.shankar@intel.com,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:34:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YjBBmEjbIaqTbVt+@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yi/Lb5laEki0JHft@agluck-desk3.sc.intel.com>

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 04:10:39PM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:10:20PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 11:54:47AM -0800, Jithu Joseph wrote:
> > > > Note to Maintainers:
> > > > Requesting x86 Maintainers to take a look at patch01 as it
> > > > touches arch/x86 portion of the kernel. Also would like to guide them
> > > > to patch07 which sets up hotplug notifiers and creates kthreads.
> > > > 
> > > > Patch 2/10 - Adds Documentation. Requesting Documentation maintainer to review it.
> > > > 
> > > > Requesting Greg KH to review the sysfs changes added by patch08.
> > > 
> > > "RFC" means you are not comfortable submitting the changes yet, so you
> > > don't need my review at this point in time.  Become confident in your
> > > changes before asking for others to review the code please.
> > 
> > Hint, it needs work, sysfs_emit() for one thing, lack of reference
> > counting on your cpu objects is another...
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Thanks for the comments. They triggered a bunch of internal
> re-thinking of the interface.  One idea that has some traction
> (Credit/Blame: Dan Williams) is to:

First off, I did not pay attention to this thread at all, given that the
very basics of this patch series had such obvious problems.  I only saw
the contents, not the context in which you wanted to make these changes.

So I have no real thoughts as to what your design should be, as I have
no idea what it is you even want to accomplish at all.

That being said, I do have one comment:

> 1) Don't put anything in /sys/devices/system/cpu/*
> 2) Driver creates some info/control files in its own
>    corner of /sys/devices/.../ifs
> 3) No per-cpu files ... run a test with:
>    # echo ${cpu} > /sys/devices/.../ifs/run_test
> 4) No test result files.
>    When tests complete they report using uevents
> 
> Using uevent to report means that we can easily have
> mutiple parts to the result (pass/fail/incomplete status, as well
> as diagnostic details about the reason for the failure,
> or why the test was not completed).
> 
> This seems a novel use of uevent ... is it OK, or is is abuse?

Don't create "novel" uses of uevents.  They are there to express a
change in state of a device so that userspace can then go and do
something with that information.  If that pattern fits here, wonderful.

I doubt you can report "test results" via a uevent in a way that the
current uevent states and messages would properly convey, but hey, maybe
I'm wrong.

good luck!

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-15  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-01 19:54 [RFC 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 01/10] x86/microcode/intel: expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:08   ` Greg KH
2022-03-02  0:56     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-02 10:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-03  1:34     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 02/10] Documentation: In-Field Scan Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:07   ` Greg KH
2022-03-02  0:58     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 03/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add driver for " Jithu Joseph
2022-03-02 23:24   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-02 23:31     ` Raj, Ashok
2022-03-03  0:02     ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-03  2:04     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 04/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Load IFS Image Jithu Joseph
2022-03-03  2:58   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 05/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 06/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 07/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Create kthreads for online cpus for scan test Jithu Joseph
2022-03-03  4:17   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-03 19:59     ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-04 19:20     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 16:52       ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 17:46         ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-10 21:42           ` Kok, Auke
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Jithu Joseph
2022-03-04  0:31   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-04 16:51     ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-04 20:42     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-04 21:01       ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-21 21:15         ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-07 17:38       ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 19:09         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 19:15           ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 19:55             ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 20:25               ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 20:56                 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 21:28                   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 21:30                   ` gregkh
2022-03-07 21:33                     ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 09/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-03-04  0:57   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 10/10] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-02  1:02     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 20:10 ` [RFC 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Greg KH
2022-03-01 20:14   ` Greg KH
2022-03-14 23:10     ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-15  7:34       ` Greg KH [this message]
2022-03-15 14:59         ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-15 15:26           ` Greg KH
2022-03-15 16:04             ` Dan Williams
2022-03-15 16:09               ` Dan Williams
2022-03-15 16:10             ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-16  8:09               ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 15:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-02 16:20     ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 13:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-02 20:29   ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-02 21:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-02 21:41       ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-02 23:11 ` Williams, Dan J

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