From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
Cc: Daniel Latypov <dlatypov@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kunit: Taint kernel if any tests run
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 13:43:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ynl8/MqmDZzpbh5y@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABVgOS=8=41KgVEgRAGcDZ_JrZpsVaK24ca0jR5J74XY9GCmDA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, May 06, 2022 at 03:01:34PM +0800, David Gow wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 1:57 PM Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 02:12:30PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 02:19:59PM -0500, Daniel Latypov wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 1:46 PM Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > OK so, we can just skip tainting considerations for selftests which
> > > > > don't use modules for now. There may be selftests which do wonky
> > > > > things in userspace but indeed I agree the userspace taint would
> > > > > be better for those but I don't think it may be worth bother
> > > > > worrying about those at this point in time.
> > > > >
> > > > > But my point in that sharing a taint between kunit / selftests modules
> > > > > does make sense and is easily possible. The unfortunate aspect is just
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I 100% agree that we should share a taint for kernelspace testing
> > > > from both kunit/kselftest.
> > > > Someone running the system won't care what framework was used.
> > >
> > > OK do you mind doing the nasty work of manually adding the new
> > > MODULE_TAINT() to the selftests as part of your effort?
> > >
> > > *Alternatively*, if we *moved* all sefltests modules to a new
> > > lib/debug/selftests/ directory or something like that then t would
> > > seem modpost *could* add the taint flag automagically for us without
> > > having to edit or require it on new drivers. We have similar type of
> > > taint for staging, see add_staging_flag().
> > >
> > > I would *highly* prefer this approach, event though it is more work,
> > > because I think this is a step we should take anyway.
> > >
> > > However, I just checked modules on lib/ and well, some of them are
> > > already in their own directory, like lib/math/test_div64.c. So not
> > > sure, maybe just move a few modules which are just in lib/*.c for now
> > > and then just sprinkle the MODULE_TAINT() to the others?
> >
> > I *think* we could just pull this off with a much easier approach,
> > simply looking for the substrings in the module name in modpost.c:
> >
> > * "_test." || "-test."
> > * ^"test_" || ^"test-"
> >
> > An issue with this of course is a vendor $FOO with an out of tree
> > test driver may end up with the taint. Perhaps we don't care.
> >
> > That means moving selftests to its own directory is not needed at this
> > point in time.
>
> I can't say I'm thrilled with the idea of just doing name comparisons,
> particularly since not all of them match this pattern, for example:
> bpf_testmod.ko. (Though, frankly, more of them do than I'd've
> guessed.)
>
> Maybe adding a taint call to the selftest helper module framework in
> kselftest_module.h, though again, there are several tests which don't
> use it.
Right, I can't think of a generic way to peg this. I think long term
we do stand to gain to move all selftests under a lib/debug/selftests/
or something like that, but for now what I suggested is the only thing
I can come up with.
> I _suspect_ we'd be able to hit most of them by tainting in frameworks
> like the above, and patch the remaining modules manually.
Works with me.
> There's also
> definitely a grey area with things like netdevsim, which are used a
> lot as helper modules by selftests, but may have other uses as well.
They can peg the module if they want the taint.
> (The advantage of the KUnit tainting is that, due to KUnit's
> centralised executor, we can be sure all KUnit tests will correctly
> trigger the taint. But maybe it doesn't matter as much if one or two
> selftests miss out.)
That is what I was thinking.
I'm convinced we *should* move selftests to a one directory. The
amount of stuff in lib/ is getting out of hand.
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-09 20:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-29 4:39 [PATCH] kunit: Taint kernel if any tests run David Gow
2022-04-29 7:09 ` Greg KH
2022-04-29 11:21 ` Jani Nikula
2022-04-29 11:41 ` Greg KH
2022-04-29 11:54 ` Jani Nikula
2022-04-29 12:07 ` Greg KH
2022-04-30 2:54 ` David Gow
2022-04-30 3:00 ` [PATCH v2] " David Gow
2022-04-30 5:50 ` Greg KH
2022-05-01 18:22 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-01 18:24 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-03 6:49 ` David Gow
2022-05-04 14:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 16:25 ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 18:46 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 19:19 ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 21:12 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-05 5:57 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-06 7:01 ` David Gow
2022-05-09 20:43 ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2022-05-13 8:32 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] panic: Taint kernel if tests are run David Gow
2022-05-13 15:35 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-17 20:45 ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13 8:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] kunit: Taint the kernel when KUnit " David Gow
2022-05-13 15:36 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13 19:08 ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-14 3:04 ` David Gow
2022-05-14 19:25 ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-17 20:58 ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-17 20:58 ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13 8:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] selftest: Taint kernel when test module loaded David Gow
2022-05-13 15:38 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-14 8:34 ` David Gow
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