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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: babu.moger@amd.com, Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	"Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:26:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7XN5wowNkem+Mci@e133380.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <486ea907-a64c-459f-9210-e25f89f7ad38@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 01:29:09PM -0800, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 2/18/25 11:32 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > Hi Reinette,
> > 
> > On 2/18/25 12:14, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >> Hi Babu,
> >>
> >> On 2/18/25 7:39 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> >>  
> >>> 3. Use the actual events instead of flags based on the below comment.
> >>>
> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/a07fca4c-c8fa-41a6-b126-59815b9a58f9@intel.com/
> >>>
> >>>  Something like this.
> >>>  # echo '//0={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};1={mbm_local_bytes}'
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
> >>>
> >>>  Are we ready to go with this approach? I am still not clear on this.
> >>>
> >>>  Reinette, What do you think?
> >>
> >> I was actually expecting some push back or at least discussion on this interface
> >> because the braces seem difficult to parse when compared to, for example, using
> > 
> > I am yet to work on it. Will work on it after confirmation.
> > 
> > Here is the output from a system with 12 domains. I created one "test" group.
> > 
> > Output is definitely harder to parse for human eyes.
> > 
> > #cat info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
> > test//0={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};1={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};2={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};3={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};4={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};5={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};6={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};7={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};8={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};9={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};10={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};11={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes}
> > //0={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};1={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};2={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};3={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};4={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};5={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};6={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};7={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};8={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};9={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};10={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes};11={mbm_total_bytes}{mbm_local_bytes}
> > 
> > It is harder to parse in code also. We should consider only if there is a
> > value-add with this format.
> 
> Please see my comments in [2] for some motivations.
> 
> > 
> > Otherwise I prefer our current flag format.
> > 
> > # cat info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
> > test//0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;8=tl;9=tl;10=tl;11=tl
> > //0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;8=tl;9=tl;10=tl;11=tl
> 
> We could possibly consider some middle ground where flags are separated by
> commas and when the amount of used flags reach 26 the interface can use
> "two letter flags" or "longer names" or "the actual event name" or ....
> 
> > 
> > 
> >> commas to separate the events of a domain. Peter [1] has some reservations about
> > 
> > Yes. I would like to hear from Peter.
> > 
> 
> Reinette

Ack; see also my reply to Peter on the other subthread.

I think the single-letter names provide a much less cumbersome
interface.

From the Arm side, I'd be happy to see just "t" and "l" for now, with
their current fixed mappings to event names, provided that we are
confident that we can add flexibility later without breaking the ABI.

In case this has got lost in the noise, I still think that the v11
proposal for the ABMC interface looks fine as a first step -- I just
wanted to kick the tires re extensibility.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 20:20 [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 01/23] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute to functions called from resctrl_late_init() Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:28   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 16:53     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:29       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 02/23] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 03/23] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 04/23] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 05/23] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 06/23] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 16:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 18:42       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 22:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 23:28           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:05   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:25     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 07/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 23:41     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 19:44     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 08/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:17   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 17:18     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-07 18:52       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:08         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 20:26           ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 09/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 10/23] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06  0:51     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-06  1:41       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 15:56         ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-19 13:28         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-07 17:30     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06  6:24   ` Xin Li
2025-02-06 16:17     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 10:07       ` Xin Li
2025-02-11 19:44         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-12  8:33           ` Xin Li
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:10       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:30         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 18:07           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:33             ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:35     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 20:10       ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters Babu Moger
2025-02-06  0:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:59     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 13:31       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 13/23] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 14/23] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:32   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:00     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 22:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 15/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assigm MBM events Babu Moger
2025-02-06  1:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 21:10     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:25       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 16/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassigm " Babu Moger
2025-02-06  3:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 16:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:30       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-22  0:36         ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 17/23] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:27     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:41   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 14:09     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 17:55       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 10:35         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 13:40           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:08             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 17:14               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:23                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 22:48                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 23:42                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-27 11:07                       ` Peter Newman
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 18/23] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:04   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 19/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 18:54     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 20/23] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 15:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 17:01       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 21:18         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 22:20           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 21/23] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 22/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:53   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:09     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:44       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 21:29         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 16:00           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:10             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 17:17               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-24 17:23                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-28 17:50                   ` Dave Martin
2025-03-03 19:30                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 18:06                       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 23/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 19:46     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 16:07   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:43     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 14:57       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20  0:34     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 20:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 15:53           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:16             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 20:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-03 14:54 ` [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-02-03 20:49   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 17:51     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:08       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-12 17:46 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-12 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-12 23:40     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13  0:11     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-13 17:56       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 17:37     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-14  6:26       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 18:31         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-14 19:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 19:51             ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-17 10:26             ` Peter Newman
2025-02-17 16:45               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 12:30                 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 15:39                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 18:14                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:32                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 21:29                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 12:26                           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2025-02-19 12:24                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 16:51                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 18:27                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:08                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 21:32                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 17:49               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 11:28                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 12:26                   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:56                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 14:53                     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 18:36                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 13:12                         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-21 22:43                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-25 17:11                             ` Peter Newman
2025-02-25 21:31                               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-26 13:27                                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-26 16:25                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-26 17:12                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-03 19:16                                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-04 16:44                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-04 21:49                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-05 10:40                                         ` Peter Newman
2025-03-05 19:34                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 22:48                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 23:22                                               ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-11  1:44                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11  3:51                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-11 20:35                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11 20:53                                                       ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-12 15:14                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 15:15                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 15:07                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 16:03                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 17:14                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 18:14                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 16:08                                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-13 20:13                                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 20:36                                                                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-14 14:49                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 21:21                                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-14 16:18                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 18:36                                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 18:12                                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-20 22:35                                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-21  0:35                                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-17 16:27                                                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-17 23:00                                                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 20:53                                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 20:29                                                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-25 21:41                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 16:46                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:46                       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 18:36                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 16:47                           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 22:43                             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13 16:19   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 18:18     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:39       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-14  6:34         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14  7:23           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07 ` James Morse

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