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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 13:36:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9NB0wd8ZewLjNAd@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be6d23c8-3e93-4bdc-8b33-d3af7df7cc94@amd.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 03:13:32PM -0500, Moger, Babu wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
> 
> On 3/13/25 11:08, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> > Hi Babu,
> > 
> > On 3/12/25 11:14 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> >> Hi Reinette,
> >>
> >> On 3/12/25 12:14, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >>> Hi Babu,
> >>>
> >>> On 3/12/25 9:03 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> >>>> Hi Reinette,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/12/25 10:07, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Babu,
> >>>>>
> ..
> 
> >>>>>> We can add the mkdir support later. That way we can provide basic ABMC
> >>>>>> support without too much code complexity with mkdir support.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is not clear to me how you envision the "first phase". Is it what you
> >>>>> proposed above, for example:
> >>>>>       #echo "LclFill, LclNTWr, RmtFill" >
> >>>>>          /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In above the counter configuration name is a file. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. That is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> There will be two configuration files by default when resctrl is mounted
> >>>> when ABMC is enabled.
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How could mkdir support be added to this later if there are already files present?
> >>>>
> >>>> We already have these directories when resctrl is mounted.
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_total_bytes
> >>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>>
> >>>> We dont need "mkdir" support for default  configurations.
> >>>
> >>> I was referring to the "mkdir" support for additional configurations that
> >>> I understood you are thinking about adding later. For example,
> >>> (copied from Peter's message
> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCiii0vXOF06mfV=kVLBzhfNo0SFqt4kQGwGSGVUqvr2Dg@mail.gmail.com/):
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  # mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>  # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
> >>>  # echo LclNTWr > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
> >>>  # echo LclSlowFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
> >>>  # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
> >>> LclFill
> >>> LclNTWr
> >>> LclSlowFill
> >>>
> >>> Any "later" work needs to be backward compatible with the first phase.
> >>
> >> Actually, we dont need extra file "event_filter".
> >> This was discussed here.
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoChLL8p49eANYgQ0dJiFs7G=223fGae+LJyx3DwEhNeR8A@mail.gmail.com/
> > 
> > I undestand from that exchange that it is possible to read/write from
> > an *existing* kernfs file but it is not obvious to me how that file is
> > planned to be created.
> 
> My bad.. I misspoke here. We need "event_filter" file under each
> configuration.
> 
> 
> > 
> > My understanding of the motivation behind support for "mkdir" is to enable
> > user space to create custom counter configurations.
> > 
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> > I understand that ABMC support aims to start with existing mbm_total_bytes/mbm_local_bytes
> > configurations but I believe the consensus is that custom configurations need
> > to be supported in the future.
> > If resctrl starts with support where counter configuration as
> > managed with a *file*, for example:
> > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes
> > how will user space create future custom configurations?
> > As I understand that is only possible with mkdir.
> > 
> >>
> >> # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >> # echo LclNTWr > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >> # echo LclSlowFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >> # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
> >>  LclFill
> >>  LclNTWr
> >>  LclSlowFill
> >>
> >> In the future, we can add mkdir support.
> >>
> >> # mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
> > 
> > This is exactly my concern. resctrl should not start with a user space where
> > a counter configuration is a file (mbm_local_bytes/mbm_total_bytes) and then
> > switch user space interface to have counter configuration be done with
> > directories.
> > 
> >> # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
> >> # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
> >>   LclFill
> > 
> > ... wait ... user space writes to the directory?
> > 
> 
> My bad. This is wrong. Let me rewrite the steps below.
> 
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> #echo mbm_read_only > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
> >>
> >> Which would result in the creation of test/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_read_only
> >>
> >> So, there is not breakage of backword compatibility.
> > 
> > The way I understand it I am seeing many incompatibilities. Perhaps I am missing
> > something. Could you please provide detailed steps of how first phase and
> > second phase would look?
> 
> No. You didn't miss anything. I misspoke on few steps.
> 
> Here are the steps. Just copying steps from Peters proposal.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCiii0vXOF06mfV=kVLBzhfNo0SFqt4kQGwGSGVUqvr2Dg@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> 
> 1. Mount the resctrl
>    mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
> 
> 2. When ABMC is supported two default configurations will be created.
> 
>   a. info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes/event_filter
>   b. info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
> 
>   These files will be populated with default total and local events
>   # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes/event_filter
>     VictimBW
>     RmtSlowFill
>     RmtNTWr
>     RmtFill
>     LclFill
>     LclNTWr
>     LclSlowFill
> 
>   # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>    LclFill,
>    LclNTWr
>    LclSlowFill
> 
> 3. Users will have options to update the event configuration.
>    echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter

Once the "mkdir" support described below is implemented users will not
need to redefine these legacy event file names. That makes me happy.

> 
> 4. As usual the events can be read from the mon_data directories.
>    #mkdir /sys/fs/resctrl/test
>    #cd   /sys/fs/resctr/test
>    #cat  test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_tota_bytes
>    101010
>    #cat   test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
>    32323
> 
> 5. There will be 3 files created in each group's mon_data directory when
> ABMC is supported.
> 
>    a. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
>    b. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_shared
>    c. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/unassign
> 
> 
> 6. Events can be assigned/unassigned by these commands
> 
>  # echo mbm_total_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
>  # echo mbm_local_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/assign_exclusive
>  # echo mbm_local_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/unassign
> 
> 
> Note:
> I feel 3 files are excessive here. We can probably achieve everything in
> just one file.

Maybe the one file could look like:

# cat mon_L3_assignments
mbm_total_bytes: exclusive
mbm_local_bytes: shared
mbm_read_only: unassigned

with new lines appearing when mkdir creates new events, and the obvious
write semantics:

# echo "mbm_total_bytes: unassigned" > mon_L3_assignments

to make updates.

> Not sure about mbm_assign_control interface as there are concerns with
> group listing holding the lock for long.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Second phase, we can add support for "mkdir"
> 
> 1. mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
> 
> 2. mkdir option will create "event_filter" file.
>    info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only/event_filter
> 
> 3. Users can modify event configuration.
>    echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only/event_filter
> 
> 4. Users can assign the events
> 
>   echo mbm_read_only > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
> 
> 5. Events can be read in
> 
>    test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_read_only

Is there a matching "rmdir" to make this go away again?

> -- 
> Thanks
> Babu Moger

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-13 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 20:20 [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 01/23] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute to functions called from resctrl_late_init() Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:28   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 16:53     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:29       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 02/23] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 03/23] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 04/23] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 05/23] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 06/23] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 16:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 18:42       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 22:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 23:28           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:05   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:25     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 07/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 23:41     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 19:44     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 08/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:17   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 17:18     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-07 18:52       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:08         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 20:26           ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 09/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 10/23] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06  0:51     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-06  1:41       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 15:56         ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-19 13:28         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-07 17:30     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06  6:24   ` Xin Li
2025-02-06 16:17     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 10:07       ` Xin Li
2025-02-11 19:44         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-12  8:33           ` Xin Li
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:10       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:30         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 18:07           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:33             ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:35     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 20:10       ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters Babu Moger
2025-02-06  0:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:59     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 13:31       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 13/23] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 14/23] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:32   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:00     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 22:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 15/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assigm MBM events Babu Moger
2025-02-06  1:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 21:10     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:25       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 16/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassigm " Babu Moger
2025-02-06  3:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 16:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:30       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-22  0:36         ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 17/23] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:27     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:41   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 14:09     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 17:55       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 10:35         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 13:40           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:08             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 17:14               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:23                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 22:48                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 23:42                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-27 11:07                       ` Peter Newman
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 18/23] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:04   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 19/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 18:54     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 20/23] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 15:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 17:01       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 21:18         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 22:20           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 21/23] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 22/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:53   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:09     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:44       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 21:29         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 16:00           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:10             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 17:17               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-24 17:23                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-28 17:50                   ` Dave Martin
2025-03-03 19:30                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 18:06                       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 23/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 19:46     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 16:07   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:43     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 14:57       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20  0:34     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 20:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 15:53           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:16             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 20:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-03 14:54 ` [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-02-03 20:49   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 17:51     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:08       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-12 17:46 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-12 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-12 23:40     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13  0:11     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-13 17:56       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 17:37     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-14  6:26       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 18:31         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-14 19:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 19:51             ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-17 10:26             ` Peter Newman
2025-02-17 16:45               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 12:30                 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 15:39                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 18:14                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:32                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 21:29                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 12:26                           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 12:24                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 16:51                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 18:27                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:08                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 21:32                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 17:49               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 11:28                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 12:26                   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:56                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 14:53                     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 18:36                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 13:12                         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-21 22:43                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-25 17:11                             ` Peter Newman
2025-02-25 21:31                               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-26 13:27                                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-26 16:25                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-26 17:12                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-03 19:16                                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-04 16:44                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-04 21:49                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-05 10:40                                         ` Peter Newman
2025-03-05 19:34                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 22:48                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 23:22                                               ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-11  1:44                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11  3:51                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-11 20:35                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11 20:53                                                       ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-12 15:14                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 15:15                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 15:07                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 16:03                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 17:14                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 18:14                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 16:08                                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-13 20:13                                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 20:36                                                                   ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2025-03-14 14:49                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 21:21                                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-14 16:18                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 18:36                                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 18:12                                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-20 22:35                                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-21  0:35                                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-17 16:27                                                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-17 23:00                                                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 20:53                                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 20:29                                                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-25 21:41                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 16:46                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:46                       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 18:36                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 16:47                           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 22:43                             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13 16:19   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 18:18     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:39       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-14  6:34         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14  7:23           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07 ` James Morse

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