From: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Amit Shah <aams@amazon.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Laura Abbott <labbott@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] Documentation/security-bugs: overhaul
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 15:47:21 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAWomdmSXViNAZVb@debian.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAWSKrbaQ6nm3qNe@1wt.eu>
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 08:11:38AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> - I'm not seeing anywhere that the security list is *exclusively*
> for kernel issues. That might explain why about once a week or so
> we receive messages like "there's a bug in that userland tool" or
> "we've found an XSS issue on your website". It's written that kernel
> bugs should be reported to the security list but I think we should
> strengthen that by adding "This list is exclusively used for Linux
> kernel security reports, please do not report issues affecting any
> other component there".
I think the wording would be "Please report security bugs against Linux
kernel to security@kernel.org list. Security bugs against userspace
applications should be reported to appropriate channels for affected
applications instead."
> - it's quite frequent that reporters post from dummy addresses,
> looking like randomly generated ones (we even had one looking
> like a smiley). It doesn't help to communicate with them at all.
> I can understand how some working as consultants for a customer
> would want to avoid disclosing a particular relation between their
> finding and their customer, but at least they should indicate how
> they should be called. I.e. "call me Margarett" is not difficult
> and simplifies exchanges when the address is "69236836@example.com".
> And often we see at the end that they're willing to provide a real
> name to be credited for the finding, so most likely starting with
> this real name could be easier.
>
Something like temporary addresses (à la maildrop or mail.gw)?
> - it's more a discussion for the list itself, but the wording continues
> to make one think that the reporter should expect the list members to
> develop a patch, while in practise the first thing that's asked is
> "since you've studied the problem well, do you happen to have a patch?".
> And it happened a few times that in response we got "oops sorry, I
> analysed it wrong, there's no issue there". I think the text should
> emphasize more on encouraging submitters to complete their work with
> a patch proposal (that's also helpful to confirm an analysis). And
> conversely I think that reports for non-immediately exploitable issues
> that are found by code analyzers (and almost always come without a
> patch) should not be sent to this list and should be discussed and
> addressed publicly instead. It's more efficient and allows more
> knowledgeable participants to have their say on the root cause of
> the problem and its possible solutions. That's of course not always
> the case, but common sense should prevail here.
I think the wording would be "It is preferrable to have a proposed patch
for the bug you report. See
Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst for details on how to
submit patches."
Thanks.
--
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-05 22:00 [PATCH v3 0/7] Documentation/security-bugs: overhaul Vegard Nossum
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation/security-bugs: move from admin-guide/ to process/ Vegard Nossum
2023-03-06 12:35 ` Federico Vaga
2023-03-06 13:39 ` Carlos Bilbao
2023-03-06 14:04 ` Akira Yokosawa
2023-03-07 2:44 ` Yanteng Si
2023-03-12 15:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Documentation/security-bugs: misc. improvements Vegard Nossum
2023-03-12 15:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] Documentation/security-bugs: improve security list section Vegard Nossum
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] Documentation/security-bugs: add linux-distros and oss-security sections Vegard Nossum
2023-03-06 6:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] Documentation/security-bugs: add table of lists Vegard Nossum
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] Documentation/security-bugs: clarify hardware vs. software vulnerabilities Vegard Nossum
2023-03-05 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] Documentation/security-bugs: document document design Vegard Nossum
2023-03-06 6:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Documentation/security-bugs: overhaul Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-06 6:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-06 6:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-06 9:42 ` Vegard Nossum
2023-03-06 7:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-06 8:47 ` Bagas Sanjaya [this message]
2023-03-06 8:48 ` Bagas Sanjaya
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