From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
"Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
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"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:09:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVuvA5V6IWa4fIs3@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <157c68b0-687e-4333-9d59-fad3f5032345@lunn.ch>
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 07:39:35PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > What about my use case of having a NIC which can stamp at a low rate
> > at the PHY (for PTP) and high rate at the DMA block (for congestion
> > control)? Both stamp points have the same PHC index.
>
> How theoretical is that? To me, it seems more likely you have two PHC.
>
> The PHY stamping tends to be slow because of the MDIO bus. If the MAC
> has fast access to the PHC, it means its not on the MDIO bus. It
> probably means you have the PHY integrated into the MAC/SoC, so the
> MAC can access it. But if its integrated like this, i don't see why
> PHY stamping should be particularly slow. So you can probably use it
> for congestion control. And then you don't need DMA stamping.
>
> Do you know of real hardware with a MAC and a PHY sharing a PHC?
Not so much a MAC and PHY sharing a PHC, but I notice in USXGMII-M,
there is the ability for the PHY to pass the timestamp back to the MAC
through the USXGMII-M connection - which would eliminate the problems
of accessing the PHY to get that the timestamps.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-20 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-14 11:28 [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 01/16] net: Convert PHYs hwtstamp callback to use kernel_hwtstamp_config Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 02/16] net: phy: Remove the call to phy_mii_ioctl in phy_hwstamp_get/set Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/16] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 04/16] net: macb: Convert to ndo_hwtstamp_get() and ndo_hwtstamp_set() Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 05/16] net: Make dev_set_hwtstamp_phylib accessible Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/16] net: phy: micrel: fix ts_info value in case of no phc Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 07/16] net_tstamp: Add TIMESTAMPING SOFTWARE and HARDWARE mask Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 15:52 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-19 2:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:05 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 16:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 08/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to expose current time stamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:40 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 09/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink command to get current timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 10/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to list available time stamping layers Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 11/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink " Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 12/16] net: Replace hwtstamp_source by timestamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 13/16] net: Change the API of PHY default timestamp to MAC Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 14/16] net: ethtool: ts: Update GET_TS to reply the current selected timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 11:14 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 12:06 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 13:49 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 14:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 14:53 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:10 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 17:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 17:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 18:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-11-20 18:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-29 20:09 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 20:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-29 22:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 23:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-30 0:06 ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-11-20 19:09 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-11-20 19:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 21:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 22:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-21 17:31 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-21 17:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 13:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 14:08 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:19 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 16:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 17:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 18:11 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-24 17:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 19:45 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-25 19:41 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-22 14:57 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 16:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:55 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 18:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-23 15:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-23 17:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-24 15:43 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 17:34 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-24 19:57 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 20:47 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-21 23:40 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 16/16] netlink: specs: Introduce time stamping set command Kory Maincent
2023-11-18 15:10 ` [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-11-19 2:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
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