From: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: "babu.moger@amd.com" <babu.moger@amd.com>,
"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
Shaopeng Tan <tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
"patches@lists.linux.dev" <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] x86/resctrl: Add event choices for mba_MBps
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 13:08:00 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZW4/sE4Af0p3jl07@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0285bbec-7152-4f54-94a3-45ce265a3ebe@intel.com>
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 12:03:23PM -0800, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> On 12/4/2023 11:45 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >> Yes. I saw the thread. Even then I feel having two similar options can
> >> cause confusion. I feel it is enough just to solve the original problem.
> >> Giving more options to a corner cases is a overkill in my opinion.
> >
> > The "original" problem was systems without "local" bandwidth event. I
> > wanted to give a way for users of mba_MBps to still have some way to
> > use it (assuming that "total" bandwidth event was present).
> >
> > Reinette suggested that some people might want to use "total", even
> > on systems that support "local". I firmly agree with that. It is easy to
> > construct scenarios where most bandwidth is to a remote node. using
> > "local" event will do nothing to throttle in these case. I'm not at all sure
> > why "local" event was picked. There's nothing in the LKML threads to
> > give clues.
> >
> > I proposed a mount option "total" as a modifier to be used in conjunction
> > with "mba_MBps". Reinette said it was too generic. Her suggestion was
> > to add "mba_MBps_total" to be used instead of "mba_MBps".
>
> No, it cannot be used instead of "mba_MBps". My intention was for it to be
> in addition to existing "mba_MBps" since taking "mba_MBps" away would be
> considered breaking user space ABI.
I was unclear. The mba_MBps option must remain as legacy ABI. My
"instead of" was intended to convey that a user wanting total bandwidth
would use:
# mount -t resctrl -o mba_MBps_total resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
rather than the new option being a modifier and requiring both
the legacy option and the modifier like this:
# mount -t resctrl -o mba_MBps,mba_MBps_total resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
which seems overly verbose.
>
> Even so ...
>
> >
> > Is that where I should have gone, instead of "mba_MBps={local|total}"?
>
> While I did propose "mba_MBps_total" (in addition to "mba_MBps") I do
> recognize your comment that a new key of mba_MBps_event does give more
> flexibility if different events become available in future. Emphasis is
> on "different" since I do not believe the parsing can support multiple
> events and thus mba_MBps_event cannot be treated as a general bucket for all
> mba_sc options, just different events guiding the feedback loop.
>
> "mba_MBps" must be kept and having it continue to use local bw as default,
> but total bw on systems that do not support local bw seems appropriate,
> (which is what this patch does).
So we defintely have:
"mba_MBps" - defaults to local, on systems without local may switch to
total if that is available. Should this switch get a pr_info()? Or just happen
silently (as I've done in patches so far).
and need to come to agreement on which of these to implement:
A) "mba_MBps_total" - forces use of total. Fails the mount if total is not
available.
B) "mba_MBps={local|total)" forces use of chosen event, fails if event
is unavailable.
C) Something else.
D) Don't provide any way to force use of total event.
>
> Reinette
-Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-04 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-24 18:16 [PATCH] x86/resctrl: mba_MBps: Fall back to total b/w if local b/w unavailable Tony Luck
2023-10-24 18:24 ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-24 23:20 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-24 23:43 ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-25 16:01 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 12:46 ` Peter Newman
2023-10-25 19:38 ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 20:39 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 20:42 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 20:52 ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 23:41 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 0:07 ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-25 21:06 ` Peter Newman
2023-10-26 13:55 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 16:09 ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-26 17:19 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 19:54 ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 23:50 ` [PATCH v2] " Tony Luck
2023-10-26 20:02 ` [PATCH v3] " Tony Luck
2023-10-26 22:40 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 22:59 ` Luck, Tony
2023-11-03 21:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 21:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-07 21:15 ` Tony Luck
2023-11-08 21:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-09 21:27 ` Luck, Tony
2023-11-15 16:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-15 21:54 ` Tony Luck
2023-11-16 19:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-28 23:14 ` [PATCH v4] x86/resctrl: Add mount option to pick total MBM event Tony Luck
2023-11-29 23:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-01 20:45 ` Tony Luck
2023-12-01 21:47 ` [PATCH v5] x86/resctrl: Add event choices for mba_MBps Tony Luck
2023-12-04 16:24 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-04 18:16 ` Tony Luck
2023-12-04 19:04 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-04 19:45 ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-04 20:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-04 21:08 ` Tony Luck [this message]
2023-12-04 22:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-04 22:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 19:56 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] x86/resctrl: mba_MBps enhancements Tony Luck
2023-12-07 19:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] x86/resctrl: Add mount option "mba_MBps_event" Tony Luck
2023-12-08 18:17 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-08 21:57 ` Tony Luck
2023-12-08 22:09 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-08 22:37 ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-12 17:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-12 20:02 ` Tony Luck
2023-12-12 21:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-13 1:07 ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-08 18:29 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 21:50 ` Tony Luck
2023-12-12 18:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 19:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] x86/resctrl: Use total bandwidth for mba_MBps option when local isn't present Tony Luck
2023-12-08 18:26 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-07 19:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] x86/resctrl: Add new "mba_MBps_event" mount option to documentation Tony Luck
2023-12-08 19:22 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-12 18:59 ` Reinette Chatre
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