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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 11:20:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWmzgqcvMIvYvWw1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f17a9a6-5781-43ef-a09b-f39310843fe6@redhat.com>


* Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/30/23 15:48, Jann Horn wrote:
> > I have seen several cases of attempts to use mutex_unlock() to release an
> > object such that the object can then be freed by another task.
> > My understanding is that this is not safe because mutex_unlock(), in the
> > MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS && !MUTEX_FLAG_HANDOFF case, accesses the mutex
> > structure after having marked it as unlocked; so mutex_unlock() requires
> > its caller to ensure that the mutex stays alive until mutex_unlock()
> > returns.
> > 
> > If MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS is set and there are real waiters, those waiters
> > have to keep the mutex alive, I think; but we could have a spurious
> > MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS left if an interruptible/killable waiter bailed
> > between the points where __mutex_unlock_slowpath() did the cmpxchg
> > reading the flags and where it acquired the wait_lock.
> 
> Could you clarify under what condition a concurrent task can decide to free
> the object holding the mutex? Is it !mutex_is_locked() or after a
> mutex_lock()/mutex_unlock sequence?
> 
> mutex_is_locked() will return true if the mutex has waiter even if it  is
> currently free.

I believe the correct condition is what the changelog already says:

  "until mutex_unlock() returns".

What happens within mutex_unlock() is kernel implementation specific and 
once a caller has called mutex_unlock(), the mutex must remain alive until 
it returns. No other call can substitute for this: neither 
mutex_is_locked(), nor some sort of mutex_lock()+mutex_unlock() sequence.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 20:48 [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic Jann Horn
2023-11-30 21:53 ` Waiman Long
2023-11-30 22:24   ` Jann Horn
2023-11-30 23:56     ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01 10:33     ` [PATCH -v2] locking/mutex: " Ingo Molnar
2023-12-02  1:37       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-12-01 10:20   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2023-12-01  0:33 ` [PATCH] locking: " Waiman Long
2023-12-01 15:01   ` Jann Horn
     [not found]     ` <a9e19ad0-9a27-4885-a6ac-bebd3e997b02@redhat.com>
2023-12-01 16:03       ` Jann Horn
2023-12-01 18:12     ` David Laight
2023-12-01 18:18       ` Jann Horn
     [not found]         ` <1bcee696-d751-413c-a2ec-4a8480bae00b@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <780e652ff52044d4a213cacbd9276cf8@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2023-12-01 19:15             ` Waiman Long
2023-12-02 15:51               ` David Laight
2023-12-02 22:39                 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01  9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 15:58   ` Jann Horn

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