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From: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 08/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:36:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZwmadFbK--Qb8qWP@agluck-desk3.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8af0ce3a-1327-3ffc-ac5c-e495f9cdf5d0@amd.com>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:49:48PM -0500, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > Is there some hardware limitation that would prevent
> > re-using domain 1 counters 2 & 3 for some other group (RMID)?
> >
> > Or is this just a s/w implementation detail because
> > you have a system wide allocator for counters?
> >
>
> There is no hardware limitation. It is how resctrl is designed.
> In case of Intel(with two sockets, 16 CLOSIDs), You can only create 16
> groups. Each group will have two domains(domain 0 for socket 0 and domain 1
> for socket 1).
>
> # cat schemata
>     MB:0=100;1=100
>     L3:0=ffff;1=ffff;
>
>
> We may have to think of addressing this sometime in the future.

In this example, the hardware would support using the instances
of counters 2 & 3 on socket 1 for a different group (RMID). But
your code doesn't alllow it because the instances of counters
2 & 3 are active on socket 0.

If you had a separate counter allocation pool for each domain
you would not have this limitation. When counters 2 & 3 are
freed on domain 1, they could be allocated to the domain 1
element of some other group.

Maybe that isn't an interesting use case, so not worth doing?

But if that is the goal, then there is no benefit in having
/sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control allow different
domains to choose different counter allocation policies.

E.g. in this example from Documentation:

/child_default_mon_grp/0=tl;1=l;

This group allocated two counters (because domain 0 is counting
both total and local). Domain 1 is only counting local, but
that means a counter on domain 1 is sitting idle. It can't
be used because the matching counter is active on domain 0.

I.e. the user who chose this simply gave up being able to
read total bandwidth on domain 1, but didn't get an extra
counter in exchange for this sacrifice. That doesn't seem
like a good deal.

I see two options for improvement:

1) Implement per-domain allocation of counters. Then a counter
freed in a domain becomes available for use in that domain
for other groups.

2) Go all-in on the global counter model and simplify the
syntax of mbm_assign_control to allocate the same counters
in all domains. That would simplify the parsing code.

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09 17:39 [PATCH v8 00/25] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 01/25] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for " Babu Moger
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 02/25] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 03/25] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 04/25] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 05/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init() to initialize fflags Babu Moger
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 06/25] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-10-11 18:14   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-11 20:53     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16  3:07   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 07/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2024-10-09 22:42   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-10 14:54     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-10 15:07       ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-10 15:30         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-10 16:02           ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-11 22:24           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 15:16             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16  3:12   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-16 15:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16 16:25       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 08/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2024-10-09 22:49   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-10 15:12     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-10 15:58       ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-10 16:57         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-10 17:08           ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-10 18:36             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-10 18:57               ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-10 20:32                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-11 17:44                   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-11 20:49                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-11 21:36                       ` Tony Luck [this message]
2024-10-14 16:46                         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 17:20                           ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 17:49                             ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-14 19:21                               ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 19:51                                 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-14 20:05                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 20:32                                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-24 17:29                                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-24 17:37                                       ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-25 20:31                                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 16:59               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 19:23                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 16:25       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 17:46         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 18:30           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-14 18:51             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 09/25] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute to dom_data_init() Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-16 17:32     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16 18:55       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-16 20:18         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 10/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce bitmap mbm_cntr_free_map to track assignable counters Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 16:55     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 11/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 12/25] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 17:59     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 13/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_map to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 14/25] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 18:52     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-17 21:13       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 23:02         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 15/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce cntr_id in mongroup for assignments Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 19:19     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 16/25] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:23   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 22:44     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 17/25] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign/update counter assignment Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 22:56     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-18 15:59       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-21 14:40         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-21 15:31           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-22  1:15             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 18/25] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to unassign a MBM counter Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-17 23:11     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-18 16:06       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 19/25] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2024-10-11 17:17   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-11 21:17     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-11 21:33       ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-14 15:43         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-14 16:18           ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-14 16:35             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-15  2:39               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-15 15:43                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-15 16:57                   ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-15 17:18                   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-15 20:42                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16  3:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-18 14:22     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 20/25] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2024-10-11 17:23   ` Tony Luck
2024-10-11 21:21     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16  3:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-18 14:31     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 21/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:36   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-18 15:13     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 22/25] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 23/25] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:40   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-18 15:50     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 24/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:40   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-21 14:56     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-09 17:39 ` [PATCH v8 25/25] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2024-10-16  3:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-21 17:04     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-21 17:20       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-22  1:12         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-16  3:05 ` [PATCH v8 00/25] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2024-10-21 17:09   ` Moger, Babu

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