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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Cc: Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	 tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	luto@kernel.org,  peterz@infradead.org,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 25/27] KVM: nVMX: Add FRED VMCS fields
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:27:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zx_XmJnMCZjb7VBS@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zx9Ua0dTQXwC9lzS@intel.com>

On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, Chao Gao wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 12:25:45AM -0700, Xin Li wrote:
> >> > static void nested_vmx_setup_cr_fixed(struct nested_vmx_msrs *msrs)
> >> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.h b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.h
> >> > index 2c296b6abb8c..5272f617fcef 100644
> >> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.h
> >> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.h
> >> > @@ -251,6 +251,14 @@ static inline bool nested_cpu_has_encls_exit(struct vmcs12 *vmcs12)
> >> > 	return nested_cpu_has2(vmcs12, SECONDARY_EXEC_ENCLS_EXITING);
> >> > }
> >> > 
> >> > +static inline bool nested_cpu_has_fred(struct vmcs12 *vmcs12)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	return vmcs12->vm_entry_controls & VM_ENTRY_LOAD_IA32_FRED &&
> >> > +	       vmcs12->vm_exit_controls & VM_EXIT_ACTIVATE_SECONDARY_CONTROLS &&
> >> > +	       vmcs12->secondary_vm_exit_controls & SECONDARY_VM_EXIT_SAVE_IA32_FRED &&
> >> > +	       vmcs12->secondary_vm_exit_controls & SECONDARY_VM_EXIT_LOAD_IA32_FRED;
> >> 
> >> Is it a requirement in the SDM that the VMM should enable all FRED controls or
> >> none? If not, the VMM is allowed to enable only one or two of them. This means
> >> KVM would need to emulate FRED controls for the L1 VMM as three separate
> >> features.
> >
> >The SDM doesn't say that.  But FRED states are used during and
> >immediately after VM entry and exit, I don't see a good reason for a VMM
> >to enable only one or two of the 3 save/load configs.

Not KVM's concern.

> >Say if VM_ENTRY_LOAD_IA32_FRED is not set, it means a VMM needs to
> >switch to guest FRED states before it does a VM entry, which is
> >absolutely a big mess.

Again, not KVM's concern.

> If the VMM doesn't enable FRED, it's fine to load guest FRED states before VM
> entry, right?

Yep.  Or if L1 is simply broken and elects to manually load FRED state before
VM-Enter instead of using VM_ENTRY_LOAD_IA32_FRED, then any badness that happens
is 100% L1's problem to deal with.  KVM's responsiblity is to emulate the
architectural behavior, what L1 may or may not do is irrelevant.

> The key is to emulate hardware behavior accurately without making assumptions
> about guests.

+1000

> If some combinations of controls cannot be emulated properly, KVM
> should report internal errors at some point.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-28 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01  5:00 [PATCH v3 00/27] Enable FRED with KVM VMX Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 01/27] KVM: x86: Use a dedicated flow for queueing re-injected exceptions Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 02/27] KVM: VMX: Don't modify guest XFD_ERR if CR0.TS=1 Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 03/27] KVM: VMX: Add support for the secondary VM exit controls Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-21  8:28   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-21 17:03     ` Xin Li
2024-10-22  2:47       ` Chao Gao
2024-10-22 16:30         ` Xin Li
2025-02-25 17:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 04/27] KVM: VMX: Initialize FRED VM entry/exit controls in vmcs_config Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 05/27] KVM: VMX: Disable FRED if FRED consistency checks fail Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-22  8:48   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-22 16:21     ` Xin Li
2024-11-26 15:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-26 18:53     ` Xin Li
2024-11-26 19:04       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 06/27] x86/cea: Export per CPU variable cea_exception_stacks Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01 16:12   ` Dave Hansen
2024-10-01 17:51     ` Xin Li
2024-10-01 18:18       ` Dave Hansen
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 07/27] KVM: VMX: Initialize VMCS FRED fields Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-22  9:06   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-22 16:18     ` Xin Li
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 08/27] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "FRED enabled" Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 09/27] KVM: VMX: Do not use MAX_POSSIBLE_PASSTHROUGH_MSRS in array definition Xin Li (Intel)
2024-11-26 18:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-26 19:22     ` Xin Li
2024-11-26 20:06       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-27  6:46         ` Xin Li
2024-11-27  6:55           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-27  7:02             ` Xin Li
2024-11-27  7:10               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-27  7:32                 ` Xin Li
2024-11-27  7:58                   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 10/27] KVM: VMX: Set FRED MSR interception Xin Li (Intel)
2024-11-13 11:31   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 11/27] KVM: VMX: Save/restore guest FRED RSP0 Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 12/27] KVM: VMX: Add support for FRED context save/restore Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 13/27] KVM: x86: Add a helper to detect if FRED is enabled for a vCPU Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 14/27] KVM: VMX: Pass XFD_ERR as pseudo-payload when injecting #NM Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 15/27] KVM: VMX: Virtualize FRED event_data Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:00 ` [PATCH v3 16/27] KVM: VMX: Virtualize FRED nested exception tracking Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-24  6:24   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-25  8:04     ` Xin Li
2024-10-28  6:33       ` Chao Gao
2024-12-05  7:16         ` Xin Li
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 17/27] KVM: x86: Mark CR4.FRED as not reserved when guest can use FRED Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-24  7:18   ` Chao Gao
2024-12-12 18:48     ` Xin Li
2024-12-12 19:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-13 18:43         ` Xin Li
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 18/27] KVM: VMX: Dump FRED context in dump_vmcs() Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-24  7:23   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-24 16:50     ` Xin Li
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 19/27] KVM: x86: Allow FRED/LKGS to be advertised to guests Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 20/27] KVM: x86: Allow WRMSRNS " Xin Li (Intel)
2025-02-25 15:41   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 21/27] KVM: VMX: Invoke vmx_set_cpu_caps() before nested setup Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-24  7:49   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-25  7:34     ` Xin Li
2025-02-25 16:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 22/27] KVM: nVMX: Add support for the secondary VM exit controls Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 23/27] KVM: nVMX: Add a prerequisite to SHADOW_FIELD_R[OW] macros Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 24/27] KVM: nVMX: Add a prerequisite to existence of VMCS fields Xin Li (Intel)
2025-02-25 16:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-25 16:37     ` Xin Li
2025-02-25 19:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 25/27] KVM: nVMX: Add FRED " Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-24  7:42   ` Chao Gao
2024-10-25  7:25     ` Xin Li
2024-10-28  9:07       ` Chao Gao
2024-10-28 18:27         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-10-29 17:40           ` Xin Li
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 26/27] KVM: nVMX: Add VMCS FRED states checking Xin Li (Intel)
2024-10-01  5:01 ` [PATCH v3 27/27] KVM: nVMX: Allow VMX FRED controls Xin Li (Intel)
2025-02-19  0:26 ` [PATCH v3 00/27] Enable FRED with KVM VMX Xin Li
2025-02-25 15:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-25 17:04     ` Xin Li
2025-02-25 17:35       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-25 18:48         ` Xin Li
2025-02-28 17:06 ` Sean Christopherson

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