From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [168.119.38.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BF1D2F3623; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 10:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=168.119.38.16 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756896852; cv=none; b=PMaYoWCd+YsHUJBU8qDcRFzDQXREKAlKV9yk56OmEOrGODh+M8h1jOeFffDLxZ0MjN7NufKoPpdsn3a7nXmPjseLpxFD8OzMOl4BMw+DTncdmT7n0AvWnRR6tB+6owenCz+5RGxbteEz/CZGfoniXzVsdV+siFO570VANU+ss60= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756896852; c=relaxed/simple; bh=AxxgJ6avajpVkQNkIiUjwsdSBHPeg3VFWG8gTSFOvtY=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=MEleDcdoxcIG5WnjlI0kS/6haBQ2bvGiTHPWiznr8JkVwjbdntNGinZ1eIWxvCuSe9fwIfX4QMWrVmgD/wiiZaVwxXeFze5XMaTsb/bJqMYM6bvBgiqV7c6c9jvjb087dUMuQ9dLOGdCXUif7KdE8F51X9U/TsvUzuFDhuM4Z+w= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=sipsolutions.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sipsolutions.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sipsolutions.net header.i=@sipsolutions.net header.b=QO16MBQ7; arc=none smtp.client-ip=168.119.38.16 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=sipsolutions.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sipsolutions.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sipsolutions.net header.i=@sipsolutions.net header.b="QO16MBQ7" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sipsolutions.net; s=mail; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=AxxgJ6avajpVkQNkIiUjwsdSBHPeg3VFWG8gTSFOvtY=; t=1756896850; x=1758106450; b=QO16MBQ7PsCiBQVNxTRIFsWvfyIYlO7UH74EO0fz58GDtsh TFleePSHWkBpHuvij6bZsv0/76vhw4YgA3JC32XlsUCTrHBq4oTLQKEL/2NumjUTdFDJW/CaWGw0E KHWAw3LBjaWxdQ7OdQ+Awh2/wl4W+YiLs2j5Gkf4z1HeXuJ1cek1LkBqENT/F2qQypeHQT5COwoWB y6JCHVjvzAZvx+k9JhjWXwedCw3cIOdva5jpd2BTCAKeDeFZBFfZo7rfx2jFuzOmske6N4+MVdEX/ lkVJQndCYGmiJYxSviLKhHatzdNXtiup14xYXqsM4EyiuZnOUZ2sYL+5X74g9xEQ==; Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1utl7t-0000000BhVX-0Lwm; Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:54:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation - update and future directions From: Johannes Berg To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Randy Dunlap , Jani Nikula , Laurent Pinchart , Vegard Nossum , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Linux Documentation , Akira Yokosawa , Bagas Sanjaya , Matthew Wilcox Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:54:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <431ce4a26d70de6b6d63778e62b732dc035633f9.camel@sipsolutions.net> References: <2f927f53-9af5-4e0c-be8f-f7bdf90e23ff@sirena.org.uk> <20250901204635.51b81ffd@foz.lan> <1bf8a898-e697-46e2-86b1-4158b021d652@sirena.org.uk> <865e583b-4c97-4db1-963c-ed8539fa56dc@sirena.org.uk> <20250902135938.35048fbc@foz.lan> <20250902141434.3e5b14e4@foz.lan> <8339a5dd-446d-4717-9d68-983f5e2354b3@sirena.org.uk> <87ecsox4uy.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <20250902191929.504977bf@foz.lan> <87frd4vfys.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <20250903124229.332dfeae@foz.lan> <431ce4a26d70de6b6d63778e62b732dc035633f9.camel@sipsolutions.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.2 (3.56.2-2.fc42) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned On Wed, 2025-09-03 at 12:45 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: >=20 > I don't follow. If this setup breaks the build then that's good, I'll > fix the env. If the build does magic inside and sort of ignores $PATH, > that's bad. Or maybe it's not ignoring $PATH, but rather picking the "best" python3.xy binary from $PATH - still that's annoying because you'd have to control which ones are there and/or know which ones it might pick. Far more predictable and usable to just use "python3" and print a message saying you might want to use a better version if you think it's too slow. johannes