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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	andersson@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	john.ogness@linutronix.de, senozhatsky@chromium.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, mojha@qti.qualcomm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	konradybcio@kernel.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 07/14] printk: add kmsg_kmemdump_register
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 09:24:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBm5QH2p6p9Wxe_M@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ce50077-2c64-40b2-82b3-c63c16fa1898@linaro.org>

On Mon 2025-05-05 18:51:19, Eugen Hristev wrote:
> Hello Petr,
> 
> Thank you for your review.
> 
> On 5/5/25 18:25, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Tue 2025-04-22 14:31:49, Eugen Hristev wrote:
> >> Add kmsg_kmemdump_register, which registers prb, log_buf and infos/descs
> >> to kmemdump.
> >> This will allow kmemdump to be able to dump specific log buffer areas on
> >> demand.
> >>
> >> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> @@ -4650,6 +4651,18 @@ int kmsg_dump_register(struct kmsg_dumper *dumper)
> >>  }
> >>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(kmsg_dump_register);
> >>  
> >> +void kmsg_kmemdump_register(void)
> >> +{
> >> +	kmemdump_register("log_buf", (void *)log_buf_addr_get(), log_buf_len_get());
> >> +	kmemdump_register("prb", (void *)&prb, sizeof(prb));
> >> +	kmemdump_register("prb", (void *)prb, sizeof(*prb));
> > 
> > This looks strange. "prb" is a pointer to "struct printk_ringbuffer".
> > It should be enough to register the memory with the structure.
>
> Yes, from my perspective this should be also enough. However, when
> loading the generated core dump into crash tool , the tool first looks
> for the prb pointer itself, and then stops if the pointer is not readable.
> After the prb pointer is being found, the crash tool dereferences it ,
> and looks at the indicated address for the actual memory.
> That is why the pointer is also saved as a kmemdump region in my proof
> of concept.

I see. It makes perfect sense to store the pointer as well after all.

> >> +	kmemdump_register("prb_descs", (void *)_printk_rb_static_descs,
> >> +			  sizeof(_printk_rb_static_descs));
> >> +	kmemdump_register("prb_infos", (void *)_printk_rb_static_infos,
> >> +			  sizeof(_printk_rb_static_infos));
> > 
> > Also this looks wrong. These are static buffers which are used during
> > early boot. They might later be replaced by dynamically allocated
> > buffers when a bigger buffer is requested by "log_buf_len" command
> > line parameter.
> > 
> 
> I will double check whether the crash tool looks for these symbols or
> only the memory, and come back with an answer
> 
> > I think that we need to register the memory of the structure
> > and 3 more buffers. See how the bigger buffer is allocated in
> > setup_log_buf().
> > 
> > I would expect something like:
> > 
> > 	unsigned int descs_count;
> > 	unsigned long data_size;
> > 
> > 	descs_count = 2 << prb->desc_ring.count_bits;
> > 	data_size = 2 << prb->data_ring.size_bits;
> > 
> > 	kmemdump_register("prb", (void *)prb, sizeof(*prb));
> > 	kmemdump_register("prb_descs", (void *)prb->desc_ring->descs,
> > 			  descs_count * sizeof(struct prb_desc));
> > 	kmemdump_register("prb_infos", (void *)prb->desc_ring->infos,
> > 			  descs_count * sizeof(struct printk_info));
> > 	kmemdump_register("prb_data", (void *)prb->data_ring->data, data_size);
> > 
> > 
> Thank you. It may be that in my test case, the buffer was not
> extended/reallocated with a bigger one.

I guess so. A bigger buffer is allocated either when explicitly
requested by "log_buf_len=" command line option. Or when the kernel
is running on a huge system with many CPUs and log_buf_add_cpu()
decides that the default buffer is not big enough for backtraces from
all CPUs.

> > But I wonder if this is enough. The current crash dump code also needs
> > to export the format of the used structures, see
> > log_buf_vmcoreinfo_setup().
> 
> It appears that crash tool looks for the structures into vmlinux
> symbols. It can be that this information is not available to some tools,
> or vmlinux not available, in which case all the used structures format
> and sizes need to be exported. But right now, the crash tool does not
> work without vmlinux.
> > 
> > Is the CONFIG_VMCORE_INFO code shared with the kmemdump, please?
> 
> I believe CONFIG_KMEMDUMP_COREIMAGE should select CONFIG_VMCORE_INFO
> indeed, which is not done in my patches. Or I have not fully understood
> your question ?

I do not see CONFIG_VMCORE_INFO selected in drivers/debug/Kconfig.
But maybe the dependency is defined another way.

Honestly, I did not study all these details. I focused primary on
the printk-related interface and commented what came to my mind.

Also I was not sure how the dumped memory can be analyzed. I expected
that it should be readable by the "crash" tool. But I did not see it explained
in Documentation/debug/kmemdump.rst.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-22 11:31 [RFC][PATCH 00/14] introduce kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/14] Documentation: add kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-05-09 17:31   ` Trilok Soni
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/14] kmemdump: introduce kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-05-09 22:38   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/14] kmemdump: introduce qcom-md backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-05-09 23:21   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/14] soc: qcom: smem: add minidump device Eugen Hristev
2025-05-07 16:56   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/14] Documentation: kmemdump: add section for coreimage ELF Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/14] kmemdump: add coreimage ELF layer Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/14] printk: add kmsg_kmemdump_register Eugen Hristev
2025-05-05 15:25   ` Petr Mladek
2025-05-05 15:51     ` Eugen Hristev
2025-05-06  7:24       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/14] kmemdump: coreimage: add kmsg registration Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/14] genirq: add irq_kmemdump_register Eugen Hristev
2025-05-07 10:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-05-07 10:27     ` Eugen Hristev
2025-06-13 14:33       ` Eugen Hristev
2025-06-13 21:10         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-06-16 10:12           ` Eugen Hristev
2025-06-17  8:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/14] kmemdump: coreimage: add irq registration Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/14] panic: add panic_kmemdump_register Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/14] kmemdump: coreimage: add panic registration Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/14] sched: add sched_kmemdump_register Eugen Hristev
2025-04-22 11:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/14] kmemdump: coreimage: add sched registration Eugen Hristev
2025-04-23  7:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/14] introduce kmemdump Trilok Soni
2025-05-07 16:54 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-05-09 15:19   ` Eugen Hristev
2025-06-02  8:46     ` Eugen Hristev

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