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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 20:16:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCauEGCqk5lVikwR@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52761839AABD5AA55DF3FE118C93A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:49:44AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 2:45 AM
> > 
> > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:30:27AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2025 11:03 AM
> > > >
> > > > +
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc - ioctl(IOMMU_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC)
> > > > + * @size: sizeof(struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc)
> > > > + * @flags: Must be 0
> > > > + * @viommu_id: Virtual IOMMU ID to associate the HW queue with
> > > > + * @type: One of enum iommu_hw_queue_type
> > > > + * @index: The logical index to the HW queue per virtual IOMMU for a
> > > > multi-queue
> > > > + *         model
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of an alternative way w/o having the user to assign index
> > > and allowing the driver to poke object dependency (next patch).
> > >
> > > Let's say the index is internally assigned by the driver. so this cmd is
> > > just for allowing a hw queue and it's the driver to decide the allocation
> > > policy, e.g. in ascending order.
> > >
> > > Introduce a new flag in viommu_ops to indicate to core that the
> > > new hw queue should hold a reference to the previous hw queue.
> > >
> > > core maintains a last_queue field in viommu. Upon success return
> > > from @hw_queue_alloc() the core increments the users refcnt of
> > > last_queue, records the dependency in iommufd_hw_queue struct,
> > > and update viommu->last_queue.
> > >
> > > Then the destroy order is naturally guaranteed.
> > 
> > I have thought about that too. It's nice that the core can easily
> > maintain the dependency for the driver.
> > 
> > But there would still need an out_index to mark each dynamically
> > allocated queue. So VMM would know where it should map the queue.
> > 
> > For example, if VMM wants to allocate a queue at its own index=1
> > without allocating index=0 first, kernel cannot fail that as VMM
> > doesn't provide the index. The only way left for kernel would be
> > to output the allocated queue with index=0 and then wish VMM can
> > validate it, which doesn't sound safe..
> > 
> 
> VMM's index is virtual which could be mapped to whatever queue
> object created at its own disposal.
> 
> the uAPI just requires VMM to remember a sequential list of  allocated
> queue objects and destroy them in reverse order of allocation, instead
> of in the reverse order of virtual indexes.

But that's not going to work for VCMDQ.

VINTF mmaps only a single page that controls multiple queues. And
all queues have to be mapped correctly between HW and VM indexes.
Otherwise, it won't work if VMM maps:

HW-level VINTF1 LVCMDQ0 <==> VM-level VINTF0 LVCMDQ1
HW-level VINTF1 LVCMDQ1 <==> VM-level VINTF0 LVCMDQ0

So, one way or another, kernel has to ensure the static mappings
of the indexes. And I think it's safer in the way that VMM tells
what index to allocate..

Thanks
Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09  3:02 [PATCH v4 00/23] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/23] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-allocated vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/23] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_alloc op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:44   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/23] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/23] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/23] iommufd/driver: Let iommufd_viommu_alloc helper save ictx to viommu->ictx Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 17:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 20:56         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-26 13:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-27 18:41             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-30 18:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 18:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_struct_destroy to revert iommufd_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-14 19:21     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 12:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:55         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/23] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/23] iommufd/selftest: Add covearge for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:50   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/23] iommufd: Abstract iopt_pin_pages and iopt_unpin_pages helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15  5:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/23] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:14     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:30     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:59       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-19 17:05         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-15 15:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 18:44     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:49       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  3:16         ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-05-16  3:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:05             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-18 15:19               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 18:16     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:32         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:42     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-19 17:29     ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-19 18:14       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-20  8:38         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-23  1:51           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-26 13:29             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 12/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 13/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 14/23] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09 14:13   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-09 19:30   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:08     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:42         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 15/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 16/23] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 17/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_alloc impl op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:32     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 18/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Support implementation-defined hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 18:52     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 19:21         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 19:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:17             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 19/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 20/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 21/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:20   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:03     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 22/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:27   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  4:00       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 23/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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