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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 16:01:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGRozoIDIlgl9H9x@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGRmaOORg-YDfncY@google.com>

On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 10:51:20PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 03:07:57PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 08:43:30PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 01:23:17PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > Or perhaps calling them "non-accelerated commands" would be nicer.
> > > 
> > > Uhh okay, so there'll be a separate driver in the VM issuing invalidation
> > > commands directly to the CMDQV thus we don't see any of it's part here?
> > 
> > That's how it works. VM must run a guest-level VCMDQ driver that
> > separates accelerated and non-accelerated commands as it already
> > does:
> > 
> >     accelerated commands => VCMDQ (HW)
> > non-accelerated commands => SMMU CMDQ (SW) =iommufd=> SMMU CMDQ (HW)
> > 
> 
> Right exactly what got me confused. I was assuming the same CMDQV driver
> would run in the Guest kernel but seems like there's another driver for
> the Guest that's not in tree yet or maybe is a purely user-space thing?

It's the same tegra241-cmdqv.c in the kernel, which is already
a part of mainline Linux. Both host and guest run the same copy
of software. The host kernel just has the user VINTF part (via
iommufd) additional to what the guest already has.

> And the weird part was that "invalidation" commands are accelerated but
> we use the .cache_invalidate viommu op for `non-invalidation` commands.
> But I guess what you meant there could be non-accelerated invalidation 
> commands (maybe something stage 2 TLBIs?) which would go through the 
> .cache_invalidate op, right?

I am talking about this:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/tegra241-cmdqv.c?h=v6.16-rc4#n305

Those commands returned "false" will be issued to smmu->cmdq in a
guest VM, which will be trapped by VMM as a standard SMMU nesting
and will be further forwarded via iommufd to the host kernel that
will invoke this cache_invalidate op in the arm-smmu-v3 driver.

Those commands returned "true" will be issued to vcmdq->cmdq that
is HW-accelerated queue (setup by VMM via iommufd's hw_queue/mmap).

Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-01 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-26 19:34 [PATCH v7 00/28] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 01/28] iommufd: Report unmapped bytes in the error path of iopt_unmap_iova_range Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 02/28] iommufd/viommu: Explicitly define vdev->virt_id Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:30   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:40   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 19:59     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 03/28] iommu: Use enum iommu_hw_info_type for type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:48   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 12:51   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 04/28] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 05/28] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_init op Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 06/28] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 07/28] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 08/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 09/28] iommufd/access: Add internal APIs for HW queue to use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 10/28] iommufd/access: Bypass access->ops->unmap for internal use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 20:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-03  4:57       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04  4:08         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 11/28] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-defined vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 12/28] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 13/28] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 13:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 14/28] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 15/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 16/28] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 17/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 18/28] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 19/28] iommu: Allow an input type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:54   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 20/28] iommufd: Allow an input data_type via iommu_hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:58   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 21/28] iommufd/selftest: Update hw_info coverage for an input data_type Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_size/type and vsmmu_init impl ops Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 23/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add hw_info to impl_ops Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:24   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 24/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 25/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 26/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 16:02   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 19:42     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:03       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 20:23         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:43           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 22:07             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 22:51               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 23:01                 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-07-02  0:14                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  0:46                     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  1:38                       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02 18:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 14:46                           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-03 17:55                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 18:48                               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-04 12:50                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-10  9:04                                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 28/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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