From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kees@kernel.org,
konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, corbet@lwn.net,
josh@joshtriplett.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:28:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIQE-hkg5ehHaSZi@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6883ea58b5685_134cc71006e@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 01:34:32PM -0700, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
>Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>[..]
>> To be clear, it's not my main point, my main point is that
>> the information is of no proven use right now. As long as
>> committer follows the BKP of adding Link: https://patch.msgid.link/...
>> we can find the metadata later.
>>
>> We never found the need to attach the exact version of smatch / sparse
>> / cocci that found the bug or "wrote" a patch. Let us not overreact to
>> the AI tools.
>>
>> > Also, I would argue that it would be useful in the change log as if there's
>> > a bug in the generated code, you know who or *what* to blame. Especially if
>> > there is a pattern to be found.
>>
>> This touches on explainability of AI. Perhaps the metadata would be
>> interesting for XAI research... not sure that's enough to be lugging
>> those tags in git history.
>
>Agree. The "who to blame" is "Author:". They signed DCO they are
>responsible for debugging what went wrong in any stage of the
>development of a patch per usual. We have a long history of debugging
>tool problems without tracking tool versions in git history.
And it would be great to avoid the potential "it wasn't me, it was the
AI!" or "whoops I don't know how that exploitable issue ended up in my
patch, must have been the AI".
--
Thanks,
Sasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-25 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-25 17:53 [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 17:53 ` [RFC 1/2] AI: Add unified AI coding assistant configuration Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25 22:11 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 18:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-25 22:15 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-27 2:24 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 16:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-25 20:40 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-25 22:25 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 17:53 ` [RFC 2/2] AI: Add initial set of rules and docs Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 20:53 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-25 22:10 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 17:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-25 18:41 ` [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-25 19:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25 19:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-25 20:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-25 20:34 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-25 22:28 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2025-07-28 17:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-28 18:20 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-28 22:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-29 0:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-25 21:03 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 15:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-28 16:41 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-26 9:07 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-26 11:53 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-26 16:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 16:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-11-11 2:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-07-27 9:37 Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-07-27 15:23 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-27 15:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-28 6:40 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 16:43 ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
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