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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
Cc: maz@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net, shuah@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, duenwen@google.com,
	rananta@google.com, jthoughton@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM: arm64: VM exit to userspace to handle SEA
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 14:28:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIk88sBA2eIEF7w-@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACw3F50Q_G75wf2rBm-P-NkyyO72i1NKqR9se99QrgipfD62yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 03:54:10PM -0700, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 2:24 PM Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 12:57 PM Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 04:59:11PM -0700, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> > > > >  - Add some detail about FEAT_RAS where we may still exit to userspace
> > > > >    for host-controlled memory, as we cannot differentiate between a
> > > > >    stage-1 or stage-2 TTW SEA when taken on the descriptor PA
> > > >
> > > > Ah, IIUC, you are saying even if the FSC code tells fault is on TTW
> > > > (esr_fsc_is_secc_ttw or esr_fsc_is_sea_ttw), it can either be guest
> > > > stage-1's or stage-2's descriptor PA, and we can tell which from
> > > > which.
> > > >
> > > > However, if ESR_ELx_S1PTW is set, we can tell this is a sub-case of
> > > > stage-2 descriptor PA, their usage is for stage-1 PTW but they are
> > > > stage-2 memory.
> > > >
> > > > Is my current understanding right?
> > >
> > > Yep, that's exactly what I'm getting at. As you note, stage-2 aborts
> > > during a stage-1 walk are sufficiently described, but not much else.
> >
> > Got it, thanks!
> >
> > >
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * Returns true if the SEA should be handled locally within KVM if the abort is
> > > > > + * caused by a kernel memory allocation (e.g. stage-2 table memory).
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +static bool host_owns_sea(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 esr)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +       /*
> > > > > +        * Without FEAT_RAS HCR_EL2.TEA is RES0, meaning any external abort
> > > > > +        * taken from a guest EL to EL2 is due to a host-imposed access (e.g.
> > > > > +        * stage-2 PTW).
> > > > > +        */
> > > > > +       if (!cpus_have_final_cap(ARM64_HAS_RAS_EXTN))
> > > > > +               return true;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       /* KVM owns the VNCR when the vCPU isn't in a nested context. */
> > > > > +       if (is_hyp_ctxt(vcpu) && (esr & ESR_ELx_VNCR))
> > > > > +               return true;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       /*
> > > > > +        * Determining if an external abort during a table walk happened at
> > > > > +        * stage-2 is only possible with S1PTW is set. Otherwise, since KVM
> > > > > +        * sets HCR_EL2.TEA, SEAs due to a stage-1 walk (i.e. accessing the PA
> > > > > +        * of the stage-1 descriptor) can reach here and are reported with a
> > > > > +        * TTW ESR value.
> > > > > +        */
> > > > > +       return esr_fsc_is_sea_ttw(esr) && (esr & ESR_ELx_S1PTW);
> > > >
> > > > Should we include esr_fsc_is_secc_ttw? like
> > > >   (esr_fsc_is_sea_ttw(esr) || esr_fsc_is_secc_ttw(esr)) && (esr & ESR_ELx_S1PTW)
> > >
> > > Parity / ECC errors are not permitted if FEAT_RAS is implemented (which
> > > is tested for up front).
> >
> > Ah, thanks for pointing this out.
> >
> > >
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > >  int kvm_handle_guest_sea(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > +       u64 esr = kvm_vcpu_get_esr(vcpu);
> > > > > +       struct kvm_run *run = vcpu->run;
> > > > > +       struct kvm *kvm = vcpu->kvm;
> > > > > +       u64 esr_mask = ESR_ELx_EC_MASK  |
> > > > > +                      ESR_ELx_FnV      |
> > > > > +                      ESR_ELx_EA       |
> > > > > +                      ESR_ELx_CM       |
> > > > > +                      ESR_ELx_WNR      |
> > > > > +                      ESR_ELx_FSC;
> > > >
> > > > Do you (and why) exclude ESR_ELx_IL on purpose?
> > >
> > > Unintended :)
> >
> > Will add into my patch.
> >
> > >
> > > > BTW, if my previous statement about TTW SEA is correct, then I also
> > > > understand why we need to explicitly exclude ESR_ELx_S1PTW.
> > >
> > > Right, we shouldn't be exposing genuine stage-2 external aborts to userspace.
> > >
> > > > > +       u64 ipa;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +
> > > > >         /*
> > > > >          * Give APEI the opportunity to claim the abort before handling it
> > > > >          * within KVM. apei_claim_sea() expects to be called with IRQs
> > > > > @@ -1824,7 +1864,32 @@ int kvm_handle_guest_sea(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > >         if (apei_claim_sea(NULL) == 0)
> > > >
> > > > I assume kvm should still lockdep_assert_irqs_enabled(), right? That
> > > > is, a WARN_ON_ONCE is still useful in case?
> > >
> > > Ah, this is diffed against my VNCR prefix which has this context. Yes, I
> > > want to preserve the lockdep assertion.
> >
> > Thanks for sharing the patch! Should I wait for you to send and queue
> > to kvmarm/next and rebase my v3 to it? Or should I insert it into my
> > v3 patch series with you as the commit author, and Signed-off-by you?
> 
> Friendly ping for this question, my v3 is ready but want to confirm
> the best option here.
> 
> Recently we found even the newer ARM64 platforms used by our org has
> to rely on KVM to more gracefully handle SEA (lacking support from
> APEI), so we would really want to work with upstream to lock down the
> proposed approach/UAPI asap.

Posted the VNCR fix which I plan on taking in 6.17. Feel free to rebase
your work on top of kvmarm-6.17 or -rc1 when it comes out.

https://lore.kernel.org/kvmarm/20250729182342.3281742-1-oliver.upton@linux.dev/

Thanks,
Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-29 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04  5:08 [PATCH v2 0/6] VMM can handle guest SEA via KVM_EXIT_ARM_SEA Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM: arm64: VM exit to userspace to handle SEA Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-01 17:35   ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-11 19:39   ` Oliver Upton
2025-07-11 23:59     ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-12 19:57       ` Oliver Upton
2025-07-19 21:24         ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-25 22:54           ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-29 21:28             ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2025-07-31 21:06               ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM: arm64: Set FnV for VCPU when FAR_EL2 is invalid Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to inject external instruction aborts Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-11 19:42   ` Oliver Upton
2025-07-11 23:58     ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-12 19:47       ` Oliver Upton
2025-07-13  2:42         ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] KVM: selftests: Test for KVM_EXIT_ARM_SEA and KVM_CAP_ARM_SEA_TO_USER Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:09 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM: selftests: Test for KVM_CAP_INJECT_EXT_IABT Jiaqi Yan
2025-07-11 19:44   ` Oliver Upton
2025-07-11 23:59     ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-06-04  5:09 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Documentation: kvm: new uAPI for handling SEA Jiaqi Yan

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