From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f66.google.com (mail-wm1-f66.google.com [209.85.128.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0061624502C for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2025 09:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.128.66 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754299405; cv=none; b=Zo3KGLsDM8Zz8w/ZsL4m3ycRNek13BeO/uiy9CfbGDaD0QXuZfhJe5p+zWsZtZTHIMsIw6soTymzaQjAQBfL+IBdCtszGqwILCqQh7OVPRajoNfWaZIP92oU6+gqCuzyCW7Wo4hyE/igjNnuA3o3fy49Pd8mWCf/TfwnJvkm/nE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754299405; c=relaxed/simple; bh=bl4pvcQ7PmhJNds/3JVxi4Rb+Sc6+NTkcOubu84sWgg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=SrxkeYAoHbEKt2Jj2BVNRiIXqgEKqkc99BZhM9vcNiqxaECzxcHreVmCIRjPwuiih6fLrf0ijPlmPlHKP90uHDyqS//wTIPjdj8Fv2Fpg+zlqHrJRjheM/Wq+GSeP24ErASWX5NFgc8DiCr/5HWtZevYH/j6eF2kexjer7kiePo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=suse.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b=fgwxBoeF; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.128.66 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="fgwxBoeF" Received: by mail-wm1-f66.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-459d62184c9so5819825e9.1 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2025 02:23:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=google; t=1754299402; x=1754904202; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AIvooEURLKmBQsBvckse7hDqJtnWUv025cagmh0D7jI=; b=fgwxBoeFGUmW26aiIV4h+ZCJgXkdhWSs0qAPJjnqZx9UnMhJQZwiE3lFiSagO/Ss7u I6TSBADKo4RufTfr9vp/8X3GisybYy9UeF1A88H+/HpMA2PYv42XDTMDJ+YP2B7EtJXz IcHK/qU90Qt2s8Z6LcdRnXSwxlEFJGJozY5WnQqPWBs/zdtY0BCNkH7LHlHs/Z1NuCe1 1+mELm5fXcL2K+F36Tcv9Xe+O8ZtYd5TRBKy74c1xD9SYzfdTJq+S1A0H7jHqPIpIURV Ypve1hXwnXUHAOBGzcsEqWBa4z0qu7qifNWbQ/CSu873oYhqaKgvw0oaAuIwFzLC3tgW NQaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1754299402; x=1754904202; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AIvooEURLKmBQsBvckse7hDqJtnWUv025cagmh0D7jI=; b=FfMHWoPcGyPkr81uno4gc67nIscGJpMqZimG9o1qFZLohLUSY+NxPnPrxv2rw82y2w TkQwB7tUAfstcuEFniFudqjLon48qtUDBN22IZjjnpsWOF/OKxhX1CevSs44rX+BKaqy tkafESFNaZul08mfaPzPR+E9cCGj4ipdeQrVhx3TPvin9kYN2I8UwiUDRI4atwR9jzuQ UTppkUN9WgTcJqF1L/TBYMhGWzVbPioYnSdFpOf7L77QQXRy+dkXUnVzhBd4ghy7lmX4 cX0GjncROeuUiusqFhMG+Xrf+J5upOBCniZmWgGfAhdoyCeb/EtYy3gg8AXJvf24PwfS xA9g== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVkRIPxe26HV2Npzp5gjQksHZUGbnJvK15CaauUzy/y4PX33zbvgDx4sM+xlT2yD03aDNDAeOe5VwI=@vger.kernel.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyF1LsEWfKhkluNrFJMCjYSFZ7UxHtj0En0KtEjWx7nm9FbywMy SM3ZbfUDPr31D++whFHeHp7XH8JA7pBJ+4bW0DG5K0x1ELAX9iczcVEROAhuyYltFA4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncurDH653hR0fORWJja+hQm5td4CCQtXwQwlibgmOUxPMd7zuaFNaYmCUCDtL3l MvcFkht1/qrFr72pjs9WNidFxr0tZe/IKLSyHBwA+h79EJcMst3UXKm28E3455w3OiaAR52N/vd tjJl9V5bw5hU5Yj/h21xtkrUqNJ2Vxw6E5zInYrnzsdB6AdHI27pkB/hCbYkyFpey+EI1gFuEgO FWaF8gGFbF64qZLt97vFWhpcdwTcVkAPya7vRsunIQsHJa6srx7F/08fKjHaHPNCu6QR+Y4aQE7 drJ1mXRi9qh82UpHmdTjoCmusPND48l43WXolMo9GY46LdACA+PLLxqfZY7JM7M9B85n/hgyQ3k uHR2vRgjn+kWAaYwba4KRRSlybBpQiZVyY5er2Atw6N0pgiWttE9QBdaD9RqDHIri8jwRqpxKqh U90yGyUEbgswM6p1v2mmpN X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEasBox7LzLdn9lD/i3sfDKKBoMxY+rEAlISaXJV7oTeph6/hbIU7OkooVpBnih8ZL0dl9DAA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b9a:b0:459:443e:b177 with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-459443eb2bcmr28240165e9.25.1754299402352; Mon, 04 Aug 2025 02:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dynamic-2a00-1028-8394-58e6-9e1a-64e5-71bf-cbcb.ipv6.o2.cz. [2a00:1028:8394:58e6:9e1a:64e5:71bf:cbcb]) by smtp.gmail.com with UTF8SMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3b8e054036bsm5016796f8f.31.2025.08.04.02.23.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Aug 2025 02:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2025 11:23:21 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Sasha Levin Cc: David Hildenbrand , Greg KH , Vlastimil Babka , corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org, kees@kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add agent coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Message-ID: References: <20250727195802.2222764-1-sashal@kernel.org> <75d86e96-cb18-4996-998c-da7ac0e97468@suse.cz> <9afd157a-296d-4f4d-9d65-07b89ab3906f@redhat.com> <2025072832-enrich-pampers-54b9@gregkh> <1bd04ce1-87c0-4e23-b155-84f7235f6072@redhat.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Mon 28-07-25 09:05:37, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 12:47:55PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > > We cannot keep complaining about maintainer overload and, at the same > > time, encourage people to bombard us with even more of that stuff. > > > > Clearly flagging stuff as AI-generated can maybe help. But really, what > > we need is a proper AI policy. I think QEMU did a good job (again, maybe > > too strict, not sure). > > So I've sent this series because I thought it's a parallel effort to the > effort of creating an "AI Policy". > > Right now we already (implicitly) have a policy as far as these > contributions go, based on > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai and the lack of > other guidelines in our codebase, we effectively welcome AI generated > contributions without any other requirements beyond the ones that affect > a regular human. > > This series of patches attempts to clarify that point to AI: it has to > follow the same requirements and rules that humans do. The above guidance is quite vague. How me as a maintainer should know that whatever AI tool has been used is meeting those two conditions : 1. Contributors should ensure that the terms and conditions of the : generative AI tool do not place any contractual restrictions on how the : tool’s output can be used that are inconsistent with the project’s open : source software license, the project’s intellectual property policies, : or the Open Source Definition. : : 2. If any pre-existing copyrighted materials (including pre-existing : open source code) authored or owned by third parties are included in the : AI tool’s output, prior to contributing such output to the project, the : Contributor should confirm that they have have permission from the third : party owners–such as the form of an open source license or public domain : declaration that complies with the project’s licensing policies–to use : and modify such pre-existing materials and contribute them to the : project. Additionally, the contributor should provide notice and : attribution of such third party rights, along with information about the : applicable license terms, with their contribution. Is that my responsibility? -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs