From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 10:37:48 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abb049fa-3a3d-4601-9ae3-61eeb7fd8fcf@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a4ea07d-88e6-4f0f-a3ce-4fd97388cec4@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 2/10/2026 10:17 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 1/28/26 9:44 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/2026 11:41 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 10:01:39AM -0600, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>>> On 1/27/2026 4:30 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>>> Babu,
>>>>
>>>> I've read a bit more of the code now and I think I understand more.
>>>>
>>>> Some useful additions to your explanation.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Only one CTRL group can be marked as PLZA
>>>
>>> Yes. Correct.
>
> Why limit it to one CTRL_MON group and why not support it for MON groups?
There can be only one PLZA configuration in a system. The values in the
MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC register (RMID, RMID_EN, CLOSID, CLOSID_EN) must
be identical across all logical processors. The only field that may
differ is PLZA_EN.
I was initially unsure which RMID should be used when PLZA is enabled on
MON groups.
After re-evaluating, enabling PLZA on MON groups is still feasible:
1. Only one group in the system can have PLZA enabled.
2. If PLZA is enabled on CTRL_MON group then we cannot enable PLZA on
MON group.
3. If PLZA is enabled on the CTRL_MON group, then the CLOSID and RMID of
the CTRL_MON group can be written.
4. If PLZA is enabled on a MON group, then the CLOSID of the CTRL_MON
group can be used, while the RMID of the MON group can be written.
I am thinking this approach should work.
>
> Limiting it to a single CTRL group seems restrictive in a few ways:
> 1) It requires that the "PLZA" group has a dedicated CLOSID. This reduces the
> number of use cases that can be supported. Consider, for example, an existing
> "high priority" resource group and a "low priority" resource group. The user may
> just want to let the tasks in the "low priority" resource group run as "high priority"
> when in CPL0. This of course may depend on what resources are allocated, for example
> cache may need more care, but if, for example, user is only interested in memory
> bandwidth allocation this seems a reasonable use case?
> 2) Similar to what Tony [1] mentioned this does not enable what the hardware is
> capable of in terms of number of different control groups/CLOSID that can be
> assigned to MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC. Why limit PLZA to one CLOSID?
> 3) The feature seems to support RMID in MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC similar to
> MSR_IA32_PQR_ASSOC. With this, it should be possible for user space to, for
> example, create a resource group that contains tasks of interest and create
> a monitor group within it that monitors all tasks' bandwidth usage when in CPL0.
> This will give user space better insight into system behavior and from what I can
> tell is supported by the feature but not enabled?
Yes, as long as PLZA is enabled on only one group in the entire system
>
>>>
>>>> 2) It can't be the root/default group
>>>
>>> This is something I added to keep the default group in a un-disturbed,
>
> Why was this needed?
>
With the new approach mentioned about we can enable in default group also.
>>>
>>>> 3) It can't have sub monitor groups
>
> Why not?
Ditto. With the new approach mentioned about we can enable in default
group also.
>
>>>> 4) It can't be pseudo-locked
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would a potential use case involve putting *all* tasks into the PLZA group? That
>>>> would avoid any additional context switch overhead as the PLZA MSR would never
>>>> need to change.
>>>
>>> Yes. That can be one use case.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If that is the case, maybe for the PLZA group we should allow user to
>>>> do:
>>>>
>>>> # echo '*' > tasks
>
> Dedicating a resource group to "PLZA" seems restrictive while also adding many
> complications since this designation makes resource group behave differently and
> thus the files need to get extra "treatments" to handle this "PLZA" designation.
>
> I am wondering if it will not be simpler to introduce just one new file, for example
> "tasks_cpl0" in both CTRL_MON and MON groups. When user space writes a task ID to the
> file it "enables" PLZA for this task and that group's CLOSID and RMID is the associated
> task's "PLZA" CLOSID and RMID. This gives user space the flexibility to use the same
> resource group to manage user space and kernel space allocations while also supporting
> various monitoring use cases. This still supports the "dedicate a resource group to PLZA"
> use case where user space can create a new resource group with certain allocations but the
> "tasks" file will be empty and "tasks_cpl0" contains the tasks needing to run with
> the resource group's allocations when in CPL0.
Yes. We should be able do that. We need both tasks_cpl0 and cpus_cpl0.
We need make sure only one group can configured in the system and not
allow in other groups when it is already enabled.
Thanks
Babu
>
> Reinette
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aXpgragcLS2L8ROe@agluck-desk3/
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-13 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-21 21:12 [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement (GLBE) Babu Moger
2026-02-09 18:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 1:07 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-11 16:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 21:18 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-12 3:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 19:09 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-13 0:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13 1:51 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 16:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13 23:14 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-14 0:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 16:05 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-20 10:07 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 18:39 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 9:29 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-21 0:12 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 13:21 ` Fenghua Yu
2026-02-23 17:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 13:21 ` Fenghua Yu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] fs/resctrl: Add new interface max_bandwidth Babu Moger
2026-02-06 23:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-09 23:52 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-02-03 0:00 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-03 16:38 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-09 16:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 19:44 ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation (GSMBA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Enforcement(GLSBE) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] x86/resctrl: Add plza_capable in rdt_resource data structure Babu Moger
2026-02-11 15:19 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 16:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 17:48 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 15:50 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] fs/resctrl: Expose plza_capable via control info file Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] resctrl: Introduce PLZA static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-01-27 22:30 ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 16:01 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:12 ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 17:41 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:44 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 19:17 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-10 16:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 18:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 16:40 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 19:46 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-11 22:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 13:55 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 18:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:18 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 18:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 21:44 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 22:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 22:52 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 23:55 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-18 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:03 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:45 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 8:21 ` Drew Fustini
2026-02-19 17:33 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 2:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-20 22:44 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 17:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 22:35 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 23:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24 19:37 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-23 10:08 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-23 16:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24 9:36 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 16:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 11:06 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:12 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 18:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 10:21 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 9:48 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 16:37 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2026-02-13 17:02 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-16 19:24 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-14 0:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:41 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:52 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-17 15:56 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 16:38 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-18 9:54 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-18 6:22 ` Stephane Eranian
2026-02-18 9:35 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 10:27 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:36 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-12 10:00 ` Ben Horgan
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:13 ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:53 ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] fs/resctrl: Introduce PLZA attribute in rdtgroup interface Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] fs/resctrl: Implement rdtgroup_plza_write() to configure PLZA in a group Babu Moger
2026-01-28 22:03 ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 18:54 ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:31 ` Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:42 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-10 0:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 23:10 ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] fs/resctrl: Update PLZA configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA task matching Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] fs/resctrl: Add per-task PLZA enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-02-03 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Luck, Tony
2026-02-10 0:27 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 0:40 ` Drew Fustini
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