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To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 10:37:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abb049fa-3a3d-4601-9ae3-61eeb7fd8fcf@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a4ea07d-88e6-4f0f-a3ce-4fd97388cec4@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 2/10/2026 10:17 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 1/28/26 9:44 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/2026 11:41 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 10:01:39AM -0600, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>>> On 1/27/2026 4:30 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>>> Babu,
>>>>
>>>> I've read a bit more of the code now and I think I understand more.
>>>>
>>>> Some useful additions to your explanation.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Only one CTRL group can be marked as PLZA
>>>
>>> Yes. Correct.
> 
> Why limit it to one CTRL_MON group and why not support it for MON groups?

There can be only one PLZA configuration in a system. The values in the 
MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC register (RMID, RMID_EN, CLOSID, CLOSID_EN) must 
be identical across all logical processors. The only field that may 
differ is PLZA_EN.

I was initially unsure which RMID should be used when PLZA is enabled on 
MON groups.

After re-evaluating, enabling PLZA on MON groups is still feasible:

1. Only one group in the system can have PLZA enabled.
2. If PLZA is enabled on CTRL_MON group then we cannot enable PLZA on 
MON group.
3. If PLZA is enabled on the CTRL_MON group, then the CLOSID and RMID of 
the CTRL_MON group can be written.
4. If PLZA is enabled on a MON group, then the CLOSID of the CTRL_MON 
group can be used, while the RMID of the MON group can be written.

I am thinking this approach should work.

> 
> Limiting it to a single CTRL group seems restrictive in a few ways:
> 1) It requires that the "PLZA" group has a dedicated CLOSID. This reduces the
>     number of use cases that can be supported. Consider, for example, an existing
>     "high priority" resource group and a "low priority" resource group. The user may
>     just want to let the tasks in the "low priority" resource group run as "high priority"
>     when in CPL0. This of course may depend on what resources are allocated, for example
>     cache may need more care, but if, for example, user is only interested in memory
>     bandwidth allocation this seems a reasonable use case?
> 2) Similar to what Tony [1] mentioned this does not enable what the hardware is
>     capable of in terms of number of different control groups/CLOSID that can be
>     assigned to MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC. Why limit PLZA to one CLOSID?
> 3) The feature seems to support RMID in MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC similar to
>     MSR_IA32_PQR_ASSOC. With this, it should be possible for user space to, for
>     example, create a resource group that contains tasks of interest and create
>     a monitor group within it that monitors all tasks' bandwidth usage when in CPL0.
>     This will give user space better insight into system behavior and from what I can
>     tell is supported by the feature but not enabled?


Yes, as long as PLZA is enabled on only one group in the entire system

> 
>>>
>>>> 2) It can't be the root/default group
>>>
>>> This is something I added to keep the default group in a un-disturbed,
> 
> Why was this needed?
> 

With the new approach mentioned about we can enable in default group also.

>>>
>>>> 3) It can't have sub monitor groups
> 
> Why not?

Ditto. With the new approach mentioned about we can enable in default 
group also.

> 
>>>> 4) It can't be pseudo-locked
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would a potential use case involve putting *all* tasks into the PLZA group? That
>>>> would avoid any additional context switch overhead as the PLZA MSR would never
>>>> need to change.
>>>
>>> Yes. That can be one use case.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If that is the case, maybe for the PLZA group we should allow user to
>>>> do:
>>>>
>>>> # echo '*' > tasks
> 
> Dedicating a resource group to "PLZA" seems restrictive while also adding many
> complications since this designation makes resource group behave differently and
> thus the files need to get extra "treatments" to handle this "PLZA" designation.
> 
> I am wondering if it will not be simpler to introduce just one new file, for example
> "tasks_cpl0" in both CTRL_MON and MON groups. When user space writes a task ID to the
> file it "enables" PLZA for this task and that group's CLOSID and RMID is the associated
> task's "PLZA" CLOSID and RMID. This gives user space the flexibility to use the same
> resource group to manage user space and kernel space allocations while also supporting
> various monitoring use cases. This still supports the "dedicate a resource group to PLZA"
> use case where user space can create a new resource group with certain allocations but the
> "tasks" file will be empty and "tasks_cpl0" contains the tasks needing to run with
> the resource group's allocations when in CPL0.

Yes. We should be able do that. We need both tasks_cpl0 and cpus_cpl0.

We need make sure only one group can configured in the system and not 
allow in other groups when it is already enabled.

Thanks
Babu

> 
> Reinette
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aXpgragcLS2L8ROe@agluck-desk3/
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-21 21:12 [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement (GLBE) Babu Moger
2026-02-09 18:44   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  1:07     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-11 16:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 21:18         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-12  3:51           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 19:09             ` Babu Moger
2026-02-13  0:05               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13  1:51                 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 16:17                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13 23:14                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-14  0:01                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 16:05                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-20 10:07             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 18:39               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:29                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-21  0:12               ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-02-23 17:38               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] fs/resctrl: Add new interface max_bandwidth Babu Moger
2026-02-06 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-09 23:52     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-02-03  0:00   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-03 16:38     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-09 16:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 19:44         ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation (GSMBA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Enforcement(GLSBE) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] x86/resctrl: Add plza_capable in rdt_resource data structure Babu Moger
2026-02-11 15:19   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 16:54     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 17:48       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 15:50     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] fs/resctrl: Expose plza_capable via control info file Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] resctrl: Introduce PLZA static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-01-27 22:30   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 16:01     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:12       ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 17:41         ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:44           ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 19:17             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-10 16:17             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 18:04               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 16:40                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 19:46                   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-11 22:22                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 13:55                     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 18:37                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:18                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 18:51                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 21:44                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 22:37                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 22:52                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 23:55                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-18 16:44                                     ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:03                                       ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:45                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  8:21                                         ` Drew Fustini
2026-02-19 17:33                                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  2:53                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-20 22:44                                         ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 17:12                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 22:35                                             ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 23:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24 19:37                                                 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-23 10:08                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-23 16:38                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24  9:36                                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 16:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 11:06                               ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:12                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 18:36                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 10:21                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:14                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:48                                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 16:37               ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2026-02-13 17:02                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-16 19:24                   ` Babu Moger
2026-02-14  0:10                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:41                   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:52                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-17 15:56                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 16:38                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-18  9:54                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-18  6:22                         ` Stephane Eranian
2026-02-18  9:35                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 10:27                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:36                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-12 10:00       ` Ben Horgan
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:13   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:53     ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] fs/resctrl: Introduce PLZA attribute in rdtgroup interface Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] fs/resctrl: Implement rdtgroup_plza_write() to configure PLZA in a group Babu Moger
2026-01-28 22:03   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 18:54     ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:31       ` Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:42     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-10  0:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 23:10     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] fs/resctrl: Update PLZA configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA task matching Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] fs/resctrl: Add per-task PLZA enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-02-03 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Luck, Tony
2026-02-10  0:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  0:40     ` Drew Fustini

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