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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	leon@kernel.org, security@kernel.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Qubes Developer Mailing List <qubes-devel@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Documentation: security-bugs: explain what is and is not a security bug
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 07:35:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afWNHZoN64fldbUK@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d3f8659-8c69-47f6-bb38-4c1d06cf8307@gmail.com>

Hi Demi Marie,

On Sat, May 02, 2026 at 01:20:10AM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> >>> Ah, but USB does cover "some" modification of devices, so this is going
> >>> to be something that is good to document over time, if for no other
> >>> reason to keep these scanning tools in check from hallucinating crazy
> >>> situations that are obviously not a valid thing we care about.
> >>
> >> OK but does this mean you still want to get these reports in the end ?
> > 
> > I want a patch if a user cares about that threat-model (as Android does
> > but no one else) as it's up to the user groups that want to change the
> > default kernel's behavior like this to actually submit patches to do so.
> FYI, I don't think this is limited to Android.  Chrome OS definitely
> cares about malicious USB devices, and the whole purpose of USBGuard is
> to prevent a USB device from being able to compromise the system unless
> authorized.  I believe Qubes OS also cares, as it supports USB device
> assignment to virtual machines.  CCing qubes-devel for confirmation.
> 
> What should that patch look like?  Could there be a way for these user
> groups to be informed of vulnerabilities in the USB subsystem, so that
> they can take responsibility for fixing them before they become public?

I've posted a proposal elsewhere in the same thread:

   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/afSxSX8RK0Z4kkOI@1wt.eu/

> It does make sense for those who care about the security of a subsystem
> to be responsible for vulnerabilities in that system, but right now
> I'm not sure how one would offer to take up that responsibility.

I think that at least some subsystems will want to add their own
restrictions based on the bug reports they keep receiving, and I hope
it can help distros figure where there's a gap between is promised to
users and what the kernel promises, that needs to be filled by userland
verification tools for example.

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-02  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-26 16:39 [PATCH 0/3] Documentation: security-bugs: new updates covering triage and AI Willy Tarreau
2026-04-26 16:39 ` [PATCH 1/3] Documentation: security-bugs: do not systematically Cc the security team Willy Tarreau
2026-04-27 13:49   ` Greg KH
2026-04-27 15:24     ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-27 15:33       ` Greg KH
2026-04-27 16:09         ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-26 16:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] Documentation: security-bugs: explain what is and is not a security bug Willy Tarreau
2026-04-26 19:33   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-04-27 13:48   ` Greg KH
2026-04-27 15:27     ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-27 15:35       ` Greg KH
2026-04-27 16:14         ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-28 21:13           ` Greg KH
2026-04-29  3:09             ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-29  6:10               ` Greg KH
2026-05-01 13:57                 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-02  5:20             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-05-02  5:35               ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2026-05-02  5:51                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-05-02  6:07                   ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-02  6:27                     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-04-26 16:39 ` [PATCH 3/3] Documentation: security-bugs: clarify requirements for AI-assisted reports Willy Tarreau
2026-04-26 19:36   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-04-27  2:22     ` Willy Tarreau
2026-04-27 13:50   ` Greg KH

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