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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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	 Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2026 12:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiFTSLb0kkTR7I9A@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260522150009.121603-7-npache@redhat.com>

I will go review the thread about the cache maintenance separately and
respond about that.

On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 09:00:01AM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
> Pass an order and offset to collapse_huge_page to support collapsing anon
> memory to arbitrary orders within a PMD. order indicates what mTHP size we
> are attempting to collapse to, and offset indicates were in the PMD to
> start the collapse attempt.
>
> For non-PMD collapse we must leave the anon VMA write locked until after
> we collapse the mTHP-- in the PMD case all the pages are isolated, but in
> the mTHP case this is not true, and we must keep the lock to prevent
> access/changes to the page tables. This can happen if the rmap walkers hit
> a pmd_none while the PMD entry is currently unavailable due to being
> temporarily removed during the collapse phase.
>
> Acked-by: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>

The logic LGTM generally, some questions for understanding below, and of
course as per above I want to review the Lance/David subthread.

Thanks!

> ---
>  mm/khugepaged.c | 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------
>  1 file changed, 55 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index fab35d318641..d64f42f66236 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -1214,34 +1214,36 @@ static enum scan_result alloc_charge_folio(struct folio **foliop, struct mm_stru
>   * while allocating a THP, as that could trigger direct reclaim/compaction.
>   * Note that the VMA must be rechecked after grabbing the mmap_lock again.
>   */
> -static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long address,
> -		int referenced, int unmapped, struct collapse_control *cc)
> +static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long start_addr,
> +		int referenced, int unmapped, struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		unsigned int order)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long pmd_addr = start_addr & HPAGE_PMD_MASK;
> +	const unsigned long end_addr = start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
>  	LIST_HEAD(compound_pagelist);
>  	pmd_t *pmd, _pmd;
> -	pte_t *pte;
> +	pte_t *pte = NULL;

As mentioned elsewhere for some reason this was dropped in
mm-unstable. Maybe a bad conflict resolution?

>  	pgtable_t pgtable;
>  	struct folio *folio;
>  	spinlock_t *pmd_ptl, *pte_ptl;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_FAIL;
>  	struct vm_area_struct *vma;
>  	struct mmu_notifier_range range;
> +	bool anon_vma_locked = false;
>
> -	VM_BUG_ON(address & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK);
> -
> -	result = alloc_charge_folio(&folio, mm, cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	result = alloc_charge_folio(&folio, mm, cc, order);
>  	if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  		goto out_nolock;
>
>  	mmap_read_lock(mm);
> -	result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, address, true, &vma, cc,
> -					 HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, pmd_addr, /*expect_anon=*/ true,
> +					 &vma, cc, order);
>  	if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED) {
>  		mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>  		goto out_nolock;
>  	}
>
> -	result = find_pmd_or_thp_or_none(mm, address, &pmd);
> +	result = find_pmd_or_thp_or_none(mm, pmd_addr, &pmd);
>  	if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED) {
>  		mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>  		goto out_nolock;
> @@ -1253,8 +1255,8 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  		 * released when it fails. So we jump out_nolock directly in
>  		 * that case.  Continuing to collapse causes inconsistency.
>  		 */
> -		result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, address, pmd,
> -						     referenced, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +		result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, start_addr, pmd,
> +						     referenced, order);
>  		if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  			goto out_nolock;
>  	}
> @@ -1269,20 +1271,21 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  	 * mmap_lock.
>  	 */
>  	mmap_write_lock(mm);
> -	result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, address, true, &vma, cc,
> -					 HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, pmd_addr, /*expect_anon=*/ true,
> +					 &vma, cc, order);
>  	if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  		goto out_up_write;
>  	/* check if the pmd is still valid */
>  	vma_start_write(vma);
> -	result = check_pmd_still_valid(mm, address, pmd);
> +	result = check_pmd_still_valid(mm, pmd_addr, pmd);
>  	if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  		goto out_up_write;
>
>  	anon_vma_lock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> +	anon_vma_locked = true;

I worry that we hold this lock a lot longer now? Maybe the algorithmic
change alters that, but Claude did suggest on the s390 bug that longer lock
hold might be an issue.

I wonder if we'll observe lock contention as a result?

Correct me if I'm wrong and we're not holding longer than previously,
however. Just appears that we do.

>
> -	mmu_notifier_range_init(&range, MMU_NOTIFY_CLEAR, 0, mm, address,
> -				address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE);
> +	mmu_notifier_range_init(&range, MMU_NOTIFY_CLEAR, 0, mm, start_addr,
> +				end_addr);
>  	mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(&range);
>
>  	pmd_ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pmd); /* probably unnecessary */
> @@ -1294,26 +1297,23 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  	 * Parallel GUP-fast is fine since GUP-fast will back off when
>  	 * it detects PMD is changed.
>  	 */
> -	_pmd = pmdp_collapse_flush(vma, address, pmd);
> +	_pmd = pmdp_collapse_flush(vma, pmd_addr, pmd);
>  	spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
>  	mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end(&range);
>  	tlb_remove_table_sync_one();
>
> -	pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, address, &pte_ptl);
> +	pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, start_addr, &pte_ptl);
>  	if (pte) {
> -		result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, address, pte, cc,
> -						      HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> -						      &compound_pagelist);
> +		result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, start_addr, pte, cc,
> +						      order, &compound_pagelist);
>  		spin_unlock(pte_ptl);
>  	} else {
>  		result = SCAN_NO_PTE_TABLE;
>  	}
>
>  	if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED)) {
> -		if (pte)
> -			pte_unmap(pte);

OK I seem to remember this is because we're holding the anon_vma lock
longer. That does imply that on e.g. x86-64 the RCU lock is being held a
bit longer also as well as the anon_vma loc.

I guess it's also because we need to hold anon_vma and pte lock because
we're fiddling around at PTE level for mTHP not just PMD level as 'classic'
THP did.

(Rememberings going on here :)

>  		spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> -		BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(!pmd_none(*pmd));
>  		/*
>  		 * We can only use set_pmd_at when establishing
>  		 * hugepmds and never for establishing regular pmds that
> @@ -1321,21 +1321,24 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  		 */
>  		pmd_populate(mm, pmd, pmd_pgtable(_pmd));
>  		spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
> -		anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
>  		goto out_up_write;
>  	}
>
>  	/*
> -	 * All pages are isolated and locked so anon_vma rmap
> -	 * can't run anymore.
> +	 * For PMD collapse all pages are isolated and locked so anon_vma
> +	 * rmap can't run anymore. For mTHP collapse the PMD entry has been
> +	 * removed and not all pages are isolated and locked, so we must hold

Right because some PTE entries be unaffected by the change.

> +	 * the lock to prevent neighboring folios from attempting to access
> +	 * this PMD until its reinstalled.

OK. This is slightly annoying for my CoW context work as it means there's
another case where we need to explicitly hold an anon_vma lock for
correctness :)

Anyway I will think about that separately, is what it is. And in fact
motivates to want this merged earlier so I can work against it :)


>  	 */
> -	anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> +	if (is_pmd_order(order)) {
> +		anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> +		anon_vma_locked = false;
> +	}
>
>  	result = __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte, folio, pmd, _pmd,
> -					   vma, address, pte_ptl,
> -					   HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> -					   &compound_pagelist);
> -	pte_unmap(pte);
> +					   vma, start_addr, pte_ptl,
> +					   order, &compound_pagelist);
>  	if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED))
>  		goto out_up_write;
>
> @@ -1345,18 +1348,32 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  	 * write.
>  	 */
>  	__folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> -	pgtable = pmd_pgtable(_pmd);
> -
>  	spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> -	BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> -	pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
> -	map_anon_folio_pmd_nopf(folio, pmd, vma, address);
> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> +	if (is_pmd_order(order)) {
> +		pgtable = pmd_pgtable(_pmd);
> +		pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
> +		map_anon_folio_pmd_nopf(folio, pmd, vma, pmd_addr);
> +	} else {
> +		/*
> +		 * set_ptes is called in map_anon_folio_pte_nopf with the
> +		 * pmd_ptl lock still held; this is safe as the PMD is expected

PMD entry you mean?

> +		 * to be none. The pmd entry is then repopulated below.
> +		 */
> +		map_anon_folio_pte_nopf(folio, pte, vma, start_addr, /*uffd_wp=*/ false);

So here we populate entries in the existing PTE _table_ to point at the new
order>0 folio? With arm64 of course doing transparent contpte stuff?

> +		smp_wmb(); /* make PTEs visible before PMD. See pmd_install() */
> +		pmd_populate(mm, pmd, pmd_pgtable(_pmd));

And then we reinstall the pre-existing PMD _entry_ from none -> what it was
before?

> +	}
>  	spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
>
>  	folio = NULL;
>
>  	result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
>  out_up_write:
> +	if (anon_vma_locked)
> +		anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> +	if (pte)
> +		pte_unmap(pte);
>  	mmap_write_unlock(mm);
>  out_nolock:
>  	if (folio)
> @@ -1536,7 +1553,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		/* collapse_huge_page expects the lock to be dropped before calling */
>  		mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>  		result = collapse_huge_page(mm, start_addr, referenced,
> -					    unmapped, cc);
> +					    unmapped, cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  		/* collapse_huge_page will return with the mmap_lock released */
>  		*lock_dropped = true;
>  	}
> --
> 2.54.0
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-04 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 10:26     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  9:39   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  3:28       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  6:54         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  7:49           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  8:15             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:44               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  9:08           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00                   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07                       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:30                 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 16:34                   ` Lance Yang
2026-06-04 12:33           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-04 10:21   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-04 10:32     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-04 11:38   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-04 12:39     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-04 12:45       ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26  6:57       ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28  8:42           ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11             ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:18   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31  8:48     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01       ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 10:58     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 15:44       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-03  8:05         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:23         ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 17:26           ` Nico Pache
2026-06-03  9:55           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 10:00           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 12:16             ` Nico Pache
2026-06-03 12:27               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:31   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  1:53       ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26  8:14             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58   ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02  1:53       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-04 10:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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