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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] selftests/mm: test kmemleak's N-consecutive-scan leak confirmation
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 15:55:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akfNeK7OOpvoZE9z@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akeX8mFiizd65pDw@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 04:24:09AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 07:55:42AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 09:41:14AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 08:52:03AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > > > +pass "min_unref_scans=1 immediate; =2 gated to 2nd scan (counts $first/$s1/$s2); param read-back ok"
> > > 
> > > Are these off by one?
> > 
> > They seem to be OK, and I've tested it multiple times.
> > 
> > > Kmemleak has a mechanism to detect live objects
> > > via the checksum. A side effect is that on allocation, the checksum is 0
> > > and only after the first scan the checksum is changed.
> > 
> > I got the impression that checksum continues to be zero for these
> > objects during the whole life time? (weird). 
> 
> I've investigated this a bit more and I found something interesting, in
> our per_pcu checksum. The code in update_checksum() is:
> 
> 	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> 		void *ptr = per_cpu_ptr((void __percpu *)object->pointer, cpu);
> 
> 		object->checksum ^= crc32(0, kasan_reset_tag((void *)ptr), object->size);
> 	}
> 
> From my naive view, this has two concerns:
> 
> 1) In the kernel, crc32(0, <64 zero bytes>, 64) is zero, and the samples' test
> I am using (kmemleak-test.c) has:
> 
> 	pr_info("__alloc_percpu(64, 4) = 0x%px\n", __alloc_percpu(64, 4)); 
> 
> alloc_percpu returns ZEROed memory, so, we are checkingsuming zero content.
> Because we are using 0 as seed, that is returning zero.
> 
> object->checksum is a bunch of 0 XOR 0 XOR 0 and so forth.

Ah, yes, you are right. Irrespective of the per-cpu xor, I think we
should seed the checksum with something other than 0 (say -1 or some
random clock value).

> 2) that XOR above seems very weird. Basically we want to detect if some of
> those per-cpu areas changed, here, but, if checksum goes to zero if two object content is similar.
> 
> Let me give you a simple example. We have SMP=2, and both objects have crc32 =
> 0x42. At the end of that function, object->checksum will be zero, given 0x42
> XOR 0x42 is zero.
> 
> If both object changes their content at the same time, object->checksum will
> continue to be zero (although the content (and checksum) HAS changed).
> 
> I understand we want to detect any change in any of these per cpu field and
> catch it independent of the CPU. I am inclined toward that.
> 
> 	--- a/mm/kmemleak.c
> 	+++ b/mm/kmemleak.c
> 	@@ -1409,8 +1409,9 @@ static bool update_checksum(struct kmemleak_object *object)
> 			object->checksum = 0;
> 			for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> 				void *ptr = per_cpu_ptr((void __percpu *)object->pointer, cpu);
> 	+                       u32 seed = object->checksum + cpu;
> 
> 	-                       object->checksum ^= crc32(0, kasan_reset_tag((void *)ptr), object->size);
> 	+                       object->checksum ^= crc32(seed, kasan_reset_tag((void *)ptr), object->size);

Yeah, the xor wasn't a great idea. What about initialising the checksum
value on object allocation to ~0 (for the two-scans idea) and for
per-cpu, just build the crc on top of the previous crc, something like:

diff --git a/mm/kmemleak.c b/mm/kmemleak.c
index 7c7ba17ce7af..e196f53f9b46 100644
--- a/mm/kmemleak.c
+++ b/mm/kmemleak.c
@@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ static struct kmemleak_object *__alloc_object(gfp_t gfp)
 	atomic_set(&object->use_count, 1);
 	object->excess_ref = 0;
 	object->count = 0;			/* white color initially */
-	object->checksum = 0;
+	object->checksum = ~0;
 	object->del_state = 0;
 
 	/* task information */
@@ -981,7 +981,7 @@ static void reset_checksum(unsigned long ptr)
 	}
 
 	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&object->lock, flags);
-	object->checksum = 0;
+	object->checksum = ~0;
 	raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&object->lock, flags);
 	put_object(object);
 }
@@ -1410,7 +1410,8 @@ static bool update_checksum(struct kmemleak_object *object)
 		for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
 			void *ptr = per_cpu_ptr((void __percpu *)object->pointer, cpu);
 
-			object->checksum ^= crc32(0, kasan_reset_tag((void *)ptr), object->size);
+			object->checksum = crc32(object->checksum,
+						 kasan_reset_tag((void *)ptr), object->size);
 		}
 	} else {
 		object->checksum = crc32(0, kasan_reset_tag((void *)object->pointer), object->size);

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-03 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-26 15:52 [PATCH 0/2] mm/kmemleak: add min_unref_scans to suppress transient false positives Breno Leitao
2026-06-26 15:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/kmemleak: report leaks only after N consecutive unreferenced scans Breno Leitao
2026-07-02  7:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-06-26 15:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/mm: test kmemleak's N-consecutive-scan leak confirmation Breno Leitao
2026-07-02  8:41   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-07-02 14:55     ` Breno Leitao
2026-07-03 11:24       ` Breno Leitao
2026-07-03 14:55         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2026-07-03 15:43           ` Breno Leitao
2026-07-03 17:11             ` Breno Leitao

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