From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MALFORMED_FREEMAIL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CBEC433DF for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 05:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458D320776 for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 05:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="du/akGfR" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726331AbgEXFdl (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 May 2020 01:33:41 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:49970 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725856AbgEXFdk (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 May 2020 01:33:40 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x534.google.com (mail-ed1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::534]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BB0CC061A0E; Sat, 23 May 2020 22:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x534.google.com with SMTP id h16so12468137eds.5; Sat, 23 May 2020 22:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=mUlXuaPdGF8MyrNkvvQ+W8qtB5P6ns9XkeFGoT1hV9g=; b=du/akGfRVb0CNDOxQ2VjUqmu19WuellI8oCk2MEGLZ+NLsAAh/jVLvXIzqu9Qg+wSv as4DoCMSHRpbFXQDIEn8o0tfVu4FLHTn6NYXaZZ14sbQwFroe/9chPqi8KR5tS2zRFny dpNg2YpFuUhntjlF8bqBt+4IJXgds0dxj/LQq+8OSzRDlFESv2+iJyXgEuEdGdlqxFWF BYq+eNFttygKKgAmiSnEhojzAHCGTsNangGDBuXJmjOFLv5+Us3ApZ1gDkQXt8aAof2b 0hWcTubRBuyF+javMxVQIRwj1mFRpC484aB9wcfqLbTR9mfzvSHqbTo6YTK2XUtGoxJa S05w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=mUlXuaPdGF8MyrNkvvQ+W8qtB5P6ns9XkeFGoT1hV9g=; b=AJ+4kvtUmCbQ7yoUxNh9iC1lT98n8bprupPnwLd1A0zN02syKarxkC35nL2TRYV1oi qu91VvdThgKEqkr6o/3adQKb+MTztwYBijcDBN+Gp6UiFU5LIzexM6boxaYk0F4WU3FU 8JYrg8eNKO0R7y1S1gZ1iX1wOMupdVkgpW+p+Qxic0ZondyTu+3Q3fzXx5CwcAR9jW2D BEHCtWXbHQZvSIENKJJ7mliXPMTy2GUZt8Fvmqpn6y5oIXLwowL9OMGwNyfpCd/YBr54 tu/ane3eO6OVvb979nqcStx8vh4hbmdf0oLhDXD0+9Czi8kvPD0cOTnsBJQbp24Smdzh +t2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531EH+MsXM0tVj2T3TOgdpaOKmfCNCFNLKIWugdS6mJWbBvgQNog mGEQXdLXI/IYZ7ExsrTVCm4Z5j2XCJ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzGvODHU1b2elyOcjbhnVj3d36TWrWRd5uO/sMjFW1GM/baq4IibwWvKOcTNfWv0SdqfR16Kg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:946:: with SMTP id h6mr9956287edz.245.1590298418966; Sat, 23 May 2020 22:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from felia ([2001:16b8:2d08:1b00:68f5:8079:cd02:67ba]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w14sm12607719ejk.13.2020.05.23.22.33.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 23 May 2020 22:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lukas Bulwahn X-Google-Original-From: Lukas Bulwahn Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 07:33:29 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: lukas@felia To: Jonathan Corbet cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: reference to Linux Foundation NDA program obsolete? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Hi Jonathan, while reading the process documentation, I noticed this reference to the Linux Foundation NDA program in Documentation/process/3.Early-stage.rst: --> That said, there are also cases where a company legitimately cannot disclose its plans early in the development process. Companies with experienced kernel developers may choose to proceed in an open-loop manner on the assumption that they will be able to avoid serious integration problems later. For companies without that sort of in-house expertise, the best option is often to hire an outside developer to review the plans undera non-disclosure agreement. The Linux Foundation operates an NDA program designed to help with this sort of situation; more information can be found at: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/NDA_program This kind of review is often enough to avoid serious problems later on without requiring public disclosure of the project. <-- The link is dead; internet search only showed some references from meeting minutes in 2008, but nothing more since then. Has this LF NDA program simply been phased out? If so, I will provide a clean-up patch to remove this historic reference. Lukas