Linux Documentation
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev"
	<sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev>,
	 "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	 "tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@intel.com>,
	 "kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	 "linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	 "tglx@kernel.org" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,  Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: TDX: Get/put PAMT pages when (un)mapping private memory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 08:12:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amDd1Ip3XTvKSTcb@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417841720b8435f8fb95ac0bd95be6e0e9390d4.camel@intel.com>

On Mon, Jul 20, 2026, Rick P Edgecombe wrote:
> On Sat, 2026-07-18 at 06:10 +0000, sashiko-bot@kernel.org wrote:
> > Thank you for your contribution! Sashiko AI review found 1 potential issue(s) to consider:
> > - [High] Infinite kernel loop in `kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn` due to permanent PAMT cache depletion on transient TDX module contention.
> > --
> 
> Our internal Sashiko found this too. It's a false positive as a real bug.
> 
> Today kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() is only called tdx_gmem_post_populate()
> during TD setup. It holds the heavyweight tdx_vm_state_guard which grabs vm-
> >lock, kvm->slots_lock, and all vcpu->mutex. So there should be no contention
> possible.
> 
> Any potential confusion is not new either, because a similar thing could happen
> with the external page tables.
> 
> But Yan and I were discussing that it would be a good cleanup to fix this anyway
> because the reason it is not a functional issue is not clear from the code. For
> improved readability (and quieter sashiko reports) the topup can happen inside
> the retry loop. Either by moving the retry loop or moving the topup.

Hmm, yeah, I think I agree.  Super duper technically, that's a fix for an existing
flaw.  Because very, very, VERY theoretically, the cache of page table pages could
be exhausted.  E.g. if some other task managed to free non-leaf page tables while
mmu_lock was dropped, thus forcing kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() to allocate from
its cache over and over.  In practice, that's likely impossible thanks to holding
slots_lock, but given that (a) retry should be rare and (b) kvm_mmu_topup_memory_cache()
is basically free if no work needs to be done, I don't see any reason to do topup
outside of the retry loop.

The other thing we should address is the call to kvm_mmu_reload().  Like cache
exhaustion, it *should* be impossible for the root to be invalidated/obsoleted,
thanks to holding slots lock.  But as evidenced by the rash of recent shadow MMU
bugs, we don't always get things perfect, and lack of defense-in-depth can be
*extremely* painful.

I don't think I want to just move kvm_mmu_reload() into the loop, because KVM
should provide stronger guarantees with respect to the validity of the loop,
versus the population of the caches.  I.e. I want to WARN if the root becomes
obsolete after the initial reload.  And more importantly, KVM really should
check the validity of the root after acquiring mmu_lock.

We can't simply call is_page_fault_stale(), because mmu_invalidate_retry_gfn()
is inherently fuzzy, i.e. could get false positives, even though the pfn provided
by guest_memfd is guaranteed to be valid.  E.g. if shared gfns surrounding the
to-be-mapped gfn are concurrently invalidated.

So, this?

	r = kvm_mmu_reload(vcpu);
	if (r)
		return r;

	do {
		if (signal_pending(current))
			return -EINTR;

		if (kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_VM_DEAD, vcpu))
			return -EIO;

		r = mmu_topup_memory_caches(vcpu, false);
		if (r)
			return r;

		cond_resched();
	
		guard(read_lock)(&kvm->mmu_lock);

		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_MMU_FREE_OBSOLETE_ROOTS, vcpu)))
			return -EIO;

		r = kvm_tdp_mmu_map(vcpu, &fault);
	} while (r == RET_PF_RETRY);

The other option would be to gracefully handle an obsolete root instead of WARNing,
but as above, I think I prefer to WARN.

	do {
		if (signal_pending(current))
			return -EINTR;

		if (kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_VM_DEAD, vcpu))
			return -EIO;

		r = kvm_mmu_reload(vcpu);
		if (r)
			return r;

		r = mmu_topup_memory_caches(vcpu, false);
		if (r)
			return r;

		cond_resched();
	
		guard(read_lock)(&kvm->mmu_lock);

		fault.mmu_seq = vcpu->kvm->mmu_invalidate_seq;
		if (is_page_fault_stale(vcpu, &fault))
			continue;

		r = kvm_tdp_mmu_map(vcpu, &fault);
	} while (r == RET_PF_RETRY);

My only hesitation with manually checking KVM_REQ_MMU_FREE_OBSOLETE_ROOTS is that
if more checks/functionality were added to is_page_fault_stale() in the future,
then we could end up missing kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() and introduce a bug.

Maybe we can have it both ways?  WARN if roots are unexpectedly made obsolete,
but fully check is_page_fault_stale() and gracefully handle an obsolete root
instead of effectively terminating the guest.

	do {
		if (signal_pending(current))
			return -EINTR;

		if (kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_VM_DEAD, vcpu))
			return -EIO;

		r = kvm_mmu_reload(vcpu);
		if (r)
			return r;

		r = mmu_topup_memory_caches(vcpu, false);
		if (r)
			return r;

		cond_resched();
	
		guard(read_lock)(&kvm->mmu_lock);

		WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_MMU_FREE_OBSOLETE_ROOTS, vcpu));

		/*
		 * Snapshot the invalidation sequence counter after acquiring
		 * mmu_lock, as guest_memfd guarantees the validity of the pfn,
		 * i.e. any concurrent invalidations are guaranteed to be
		 * irrelevant.
		 */
		fault.mmu_seq = vcpu->kvm->mmu_invalidate_seq;
		if (is_page_fault_stale(vcpu, &fault))
			continue;

		r = kvm_tdp_mmu_map(vcpu, &fault);
	} while (r == RET_PF_RETRY);


> > --- Patch [8]: [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: TDX: Get/put PAMT pages when (un)mapping private memory ---
> > commit 3474807f1c1bc4dedc75e2a756b65254c986a41d
> > Author: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
> > 
> > KVM: TDX: Get/put PAMT pages when (un)mapping private memory
> >     
> > Add Dynamic PAMT support to KVM's S-EPT MMU by "getting" a PAMT page when
> > adding guest memory (PAGE.ADD or PAGE.AUG), and "putting" the page when
> > removing guest memory (PAGE.REMOVE).
> > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > index 528ebb3cb0389..049da8559882b 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > @@ -1679,16 +1693,28 @@ static struct page *tdx_spte_to_sept_pt(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn,
> > >  static int tdx_sept_map_nonleaf_spte(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn,
> > >  				     enum pg_level level, u64 new_spte)
> > >  {
> > > +	struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu = kvm_get_running_vcpu();
> > >  	gpa_t gpa = gfn_to_gpa(gfn);
> > >  	u64 err, entry, level_state;
> > >  	struct page *sept_pt;
> > > +	int ret;
> > > +
> > > +	if (KVM_BUG_ON(!vcpu, kvm))
> > > +		return -EIO;
> > >  
> > >  	sept_pt = tdx_spte_to_sept_pt(kvm, gfn, new_spte, level);
> > >  	if (!sept_pt)
> > >  		return -EIO;
> > >  
> > > +	ret = tdx_pamt_get(page_to_pfn(sept_pt), &to_tdx(vcpu)->pamt_cache);
> > > +	if (ret)

Shouldn't this be a KVM_BUG_ON()?  To Sashiko's point about this creating an
infinite fault loop, that simply shouldn't happen.  The whole point of using
caches for the paging assets is to guarantee success.

> > > +		return ret;
> > > +
> > >  	err = tdh_mem_sept_add(&to_kvm_tdx(kvm)->td, gpa, level, sept_pt,
> > >  			       &entry, &level_state);
> > > +	if (err)
> > > +		tdx_pamt_put(page_to_pfn(sept_pt));
> > > +
> > >  	if (unlikely(tdx_operand_busy(err)))
> > >  		return -EBUSY;
> > 
> > [Severity: High]
> > Does this error path risk causing an infinite loop if the TDX module
> > contention leads to TDX_OPERAND_BUSY?
> > 
> > When tdh_mem_sept_add() returns TDX_OPERAND_BUSY, tdx_pamt_put() frees the
> > PAMT pages directly back to the buddy allocator, not back into the vCPU's
> > PAMT cache.
> > 
> > If this happens during VM initialization in a retry loop like
> > kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn(), the vCPU memory caches are topped up outside
> > of the loop:
> > 
> >     r = mmu_topup_memory_caches(vcpu, false);
> >     if (r)
> >         return r;
> > 
> >     do {
> >         ...
> >         r = kvm_tdp_mmu_map(vcpu, &fault);
> >     } while (r == RET_PF_RETRY);
> > 
> > Since the PAMT pages are discarded rather than returned to the cache, a few
> > busy retries will completely empty the vCPU's PAMT cache.
> > 
> > On the next retry, tdx_pamt_get() will return -ENOMEM because the cache is
> > empty and it does not fall back to alloc_page() when a cache is provided.
> > 
> > The TDP MMU handles -ENOMEM by returning RET_PF_RETRY, but because the cache
> > is never replenished inside the loop, the loop will infinitely fail and retry.
> > 
> > Could the PAMT pages be returned to the vCPU cache instead of the buddy
> > allocator during transient failures, or should the cache top-up be moved
> > inside the retry loop?
> > 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-22 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-18  1:44 [PATCH v7 00/11] Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] x86/virt/tdx: Simplify PAMT layout calculation Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate page bitmap for Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_control_page() helpers Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate refcounts for Dynamic PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] x86/virt/tdx: Handle multiple callers in tdx_pamt_get/put() Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-21 15:32   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for TD and vCPU control structures Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-22  7:59   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-22 19:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] x86/tdx: Add APIs to support Dynamic PAMT ops from KVM's fault path Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-22 10:50   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: TDX: Get/put PAMT pages when (un)mapping private memory Rick Edgecombe
     [not found]   ` <20260718061050.E17B01F000E9@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-07-20 16:48     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 15:12       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-22 16:55         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 17:31           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-22 19:17             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 19:18         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 13:46   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-22 19:20     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 19:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-22 19:51         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 14:25   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-22 16:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 19:41   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
     [not found]   ` <20260718015627.21D9F1F000E9@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-07-20 18:34     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-18  1:44 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX's " Rick Edgecombe
2026-07-18  1:45 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] x86/virt/tdx: Optimize tdx_pamt_get/put() Rick Edgecombe
     [not found]   ` <20260718020053.C2FC81F000E9@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-07-20 18:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-21 20:59 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] Dynamic PAMT Sohil Mehta

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=amDd1Ip3XTvKSTcb@google.com \
    --to=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=binbin.wu@intel.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=chao.gao@intel.com \
    --cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=kai.huang@intel.com \
    --cc=kas@kernel.org \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-coco@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=nik.borisov@suse.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com \
    --cc=sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=tglx@kernel.org \
    --cc=tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=vannapurve@google.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=yan.y.zhao@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox