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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	 Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>,  Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Bischoff <Sascha.Bischoff@arm.com>,
	 Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Jack Allister <jalliste@amazon.com>,
	 Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>,
	joe.jin@oracle.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK_GUEST for accurate KVM clock migration
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 14:17:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amPWX8lKXw2KS_kZ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260703212145.343527-6-dwmw2@infradead.org>

On Fri, Jul 03, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: Jack Allister <jalliste@amazon.com>
> 
> In the common case (where kvm->arch.use_master_clock is true), the KVM
> clock is defined as a simple arithmetic function of the guest TSC, based
> on a reference point stored in kvm->arch.master_kernel_ns and
> kvm->arch.master_cycle_now.
> 
> The existing KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK functionality does not allow for this
> relationship to be precisely saved and restored by userspace. All it can
> currently do is set the KVM clock at a given UTC reference time, which
> is necessarily imprecise.
> 
> So on live update, the guest TSC can remain cycle accurate at precisely
> the same offset from the host TSC, but there is no way for userspace to
> restore the KVM clock accurately.
> 
> Even on live migration to a new host, where the accuracy of the guest
> time-keeping is fundamentally limited by the accuracy of wallclock
> synchronization between the source and destination hosts, the clock jump
> experienced by the guest's TSC and its KVM clock should at least be
> *consistent*. Even when the guest TSC suffers a discontinuity, its KVM
> clock should still remain the *same* arithmetic function of the guest
> TSC, and not suffer an *additional* discontinuity.
> 
> To allow for accurate migration of the KVM clock, add per-vCPU ioctls
> which save and restore the actual PV clock info in
> pvclock_vcpu_time_info.
> 
> The restoration in KVM_SET_CLOCK_GUEST works by creating a new reference
> point in time just as kvm_update_masterclock() does, and calculating the
> corresponding guest TSC value. This guest TSC value is then passed
> through the user-provided pvclock structure to generate the *intended*
> KVM clock value at that point in time, and through the *actual* KVM
> clock calculation. Then kvm->arch.kvmclock_offset is adjusted to
> eliminate the difference.
> 
> Where kvm->arch.use_master_clock is false (because the host TSC is
> unreliable, or the guest TSCs are configured strangely), the KVM clock
> is *not* defined as a function of the guest TSC so KVM_GET_CLOCK_GUEST
> returns an error. In this case, as documented, userspace shall use the
> legacy KVM_GET_CLOCK ioctl. The loss of precision is acceptable in this
> case since the clocks are imprecise in this mode anyway.
> 
> On *restoration*, if kvm->arch.use_master_clock is false, an error is
> returned for similar reasons and userspace shall fall back to using
> KVM_SET_CLOCK. This does mean that, as documented, userspace needs to
> use *both* KVM_GET_CLOCK_GUEST and KVM_GET_CLOCK and send both results
> with the migration data (unless the intent is to refuse to resume on a
> host with bad TSC).

Please post this as a standalone mini-series.  AFAICT, the only dependency of
any kind is a minor conflict with the s/hw_tsc_khz/hw_tsc_hz change, and that's
trivial to sort out later on.

I'm comfortable stumbling my way through the clock fixes, but I want Paolo (and
others) eyeballs on new uAPI like this.  And because this series is plenty big
without this one :-)

> Co-developed-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> Signed-off-by: Jack Allister <jalliste@amazon.com>
> Reviewed-by: Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>
> Cc: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
> Tested-by: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst  |  37 +++++++
>  arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h |   1 +
>  arch/x86/kvm/x86.c              | 171 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  include/uapi/linux/kvm.h        |   3 +
>  4 files changed, 212 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> index 52bbbb553ce1..2268b4442df6 100644
> --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> @@ -6553,6 +6553,43 @@ KVM_S390_KEYOP_SSKE
>    Sets the storage key for the guest address ``guest_addr`` to the key
>    specified in ``key``, returning the previous value in ``key``.
>  
> +4.145 KVM_GET_CLOCK_GUEST
> +----------------------------
> +
> +:Capability: none

Why not add a CAP?  The check in the subsequent selftest is quite gross.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-24 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03 21:17 [PATCH v6 00/36] Cleaning up the KVM clock mess David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 01/36] KVM: x86/xen: Do not corrupt KVM clock in kvm_xen_shared_info_init() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 02/36] KVM: x86: Improve accuracy of KVM clock when TSC scaling is in force David Woodhouse
2026-07-24 21:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 03/36] UAPI: x86: Move pvclock-abi to UAPI for x86 platforms David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 04/36] KVM: selftests: Use UAPI pvclock-abi.h in xen_shinfo_test David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 05/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK_GUEST for accurate KVM clock migration David Woodhouse
2026-07-24 21:17   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 06/36] KVM: selftests: Add KVM/PV clock selftest to prove timer correction David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 07/36] KVM: x86: Explicitly disable TSC scaling without CONSTANT_TSC David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 08/36] KVM: x86: Activate master clock immediately on vCPU creation David Woodhouse
2026-07-24 21:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 09/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_VCPU_TSC_SCALE and fix the documentation on TSC migration David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 10/36] KVM: x86: Avoid NTP frequency skew for KVM clock on 32-bit host David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 11/36] KVM: x86: Fold __get_kvmclock() into get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 12/36] KVM: x86: Restructure get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-24 21:29   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 13/36] KVM: x86: Fix KVM clock precision in get_kvmclock() with TSC scaling David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 14/36] KVM: x86: Use get_kvmclock() in kvm_get_wall_clock_epoch() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 15/36] KVM: x86: Fix compute_guest_tsc() to handle negative time deltas David Woodhouse
2026-07-24 21:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 16/36] KVM: x86: Restructure kvm_guest_time_update() for TSC upscaling David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 17/36] KVM: x86: Simplify and comment kvm_get_time_scale() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 18/36] KVM: x86: Remove implicit rdtsc() from kvm_compute_l1_tsc_offset() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 19/36] KVM: x86: Improve synchronization in kvm_synchronize_tsc() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:17 ` [PATCH v6 20/36] KVM: x86: Kill last_tsc_{nsec,write,offset} fields David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 21/36] KVM: x86: Replace nr_vcpus_matched_tsc count with all_vcpus_matched_tsc bool David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 22/36] KVM: x86: Allow KVM master clock mode when TSCs are offset from each other David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 23/36] KVM: selftests: Add master clock offset test David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 24/36] KVM: x86: Factor out kvm_use_master_clock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 25/36] KVM: x86: Avoid gratuitous global clock updates David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 26/36] KVM: x86/xen: Prevent runstate times from becoming negative David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 27/36] KVM: x86: Avoid redundant masterclock updates from multiple vCPUs David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 28/36] KVM: x86: Remove runtime Xen TSC frequency CPUID update David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 29/36] KVM: selftests: Add Xen/generic CPUID timing leaf test David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 30/36] KVM: x86: Re-synchronize TSC after KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 31/36] KVM: selftests: Add Xen runstate migration test David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 32/36] KVM: x86: Use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for master clock David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 33/36] KVM: x86: Compute kvmclock base without pvclock_gtod_data David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 34/36] KVM: x86: Cache host vclock_mode for masterclock eligibility checks David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 35/36] KVM: x86: Remove pvclock_gtod_data and private timekeeping code David Woodhouse
2026-07-03 21:18 ` [PATCH v6 36/36] KVM: x86: Activate master clock from kvm_arch_init_vm() David Woodhouse

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