From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.migadu.com (out-100.mta1.migadu.com [95.215.58.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8325036F901 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2026 07:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=95.215.58.100 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1788851063; cv=none; b=QrNPeL23HTjQKsJZOBnlBX62VuIOlFrD3bcKYV19uz1sqJ68OLd/kJKp7qQmaEh0zvZCf3ZPz8B01yhTJTg6EPdtCVHkWWa2juyRQJQl9F1VOCOhaScQgEPw9XgqW9y54mhxF2qhmR+N6K7GoGvbZTfvl3mrB2Bew2zXvgg95+A= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1788851063; c=relaxed/simple; bh=HzjFTUzM1h8cKJKoYfscrnzwWcTkdgUAux0H+g1d+hY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=bg/DhOn5ga9hwcJhCwJ7E/dSpsHqY1QfYaJIzarK80loeDPZMnecAoizSrmi8juLPiakNdzO44kGZu5b7yvLhVYuLtXTAzvSGeOE4riVRuOMss48hAb3DVktkZo5vYB7tppe+Uo91z7tHFXlMf0H56/o5FRP5LRYTKpecLX4wgc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=wyuan.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=wyuan.org header.i=@wyuan.org header.b=YHq6NA4d; arc=none smtp.client-ip=95.215.58.100 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=wyuan.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=wyuan.org header.i=@wyuan.org header.b="YHq6NA4d" X-Envelope-To: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=HzjFTUzM1h8cKJKoYfscrnzwWcTkdgUAux0H+g1d+hY=; c=simple/simple; d=wyuan.org; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=key1; t=1788851058; v=1; x=1789455858; b=YHq6NA4dy1BvedmUYoV6pFx7iMGTguTfbNg1KKuWI5CWCwrL/N1G2vynZcVcCtWGiKRjakM0 bisyRJmjjFKfJ/RiBuURiMMjdkR60ME+O28Kvi+5IsXZN+jUq9lPQiysnf0j60hzm3sYn2mwhP3 Vyi9Pd3gwq1OHobwJoUPjUH1XGHQpnETOb2lr+KLkhXpU0K1AkXqOTVH1NlhQKolJclCVpQpaAB O9Lg8pm3xNSvumCZXJFtApjHVLMserY7FPe6+OA+JBuCH9d7DAoxUUxL8T2+KK8l6ANmaT0Qc/l lIt9N0iF3W1yCsaSGZzQzdgk1znu2SqPHfzbeYYRP2j8Q== X-Envelope-To: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Received: by smtp.migadu.com with ESMTPS id dade2e651a255ea7; Tue, 08 Sep 2026 07:04:07 +0000 X-Mizu-Trace-ID: dade2e651a255ea7 X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2026 15:04:02 +0800 From: Weijie Yuan To: "zhen.ni" Cc: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" , Andrew Morton , David Hildenbrand , Lorenzo Stoakes , "Liam R . Howlett" , Mike Rapoport , Suren Baghdasaryan , Michal Hocko , Jonathan Corbet , Shuah Khan , Randy Dunlap , Brendan Jackman , Johannes Weiner , Zi Yan , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] mm/page_owner: Add PID/TGID/COMM and cgroup filtering Message-ID: References: <20260903041819.1776630-1-zhen.ni@easystack.cn> <5d4c247c-b8ea-4d3f-b2b9-d442d372fd03@kernel.org> <6744bcdb-3456-4ba2-95a0-a58c354bfbfa@easystack.cn> <048d7470-a813-4252-a4f0-0ec29694f639@easystack.cn> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <048d7470-a813-4252-a4f0-0ec29694f639@easystack.cn> On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 02:40:10PM +0800, zhen.ni wrote: > > > 在 2026/9/8 14:24, Weijie Yuan 写道: > > From an outsider.. > > > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 10:41:23AM +0800, zhen.ni wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry but your whole reply reads like a LLM slop. It took a lot of > > > > mental effor to actually try and engage with it. > > > > > > > > > > This reply was written by me, and its viewpoints are not simply copied > > > directly from an LLM. The LLM only assists with the wording. > > > > So that's probably the reason. Your previous replies was indeed very > > much like the output of an LLM. Even if the idea is your own, after > > being "polished" by LLM, it's hard to read. I know English is not our > > first language, and it's not that easy to speak like a native speaker. > > But may I ask you did you read it before sending them out? I really > > found this bunch of overly formal content a little painful to read. > > > > So I suspect the LLM may have taken too much liberty in polishing your > > text, to the point that your replies no longer read like something a > > person would naturally write. > > > > The "Summary and Plan" in your reply in v1, both in its formatting and > > wording, looks quite similar to LLM-generated text to me. So I can > > understand why Lorenzo asked whether you had used an LLM. Come on, we > > all know what LLM writing looks like. > > > > That said, I do not know exactly how you used the LLM on your original > > text, so please forgive me if I have this wrong. > > > > Thanks. > > > I really can't distinguish the LLM flavor that clearly in English. Yes, sometimes I can not as well. But I guess the native ones can. So.. ;-) > I'm sorry for causing some trouble. That's fine. No need to say sorry. I know and understand that we non-native speakers would rather not make mistakes over these little language detail issues. But over-polishing can end up having the opposite effect. Keeping some of your natural writing style may actually be what the community prefers, especially these AI days. > My normal reply process is to first describe my ideas, then have the > LLM check for logic and grammar issues, and do a round of polishing. I > check the final draft once more to see if it has deviated from my > ideas, and make corresponding revisions. Sigh, so it is hard to know where to draw the line. Write more and learn more about "human-like" writing, perhaps. :) Thanks!