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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/23] kbuild: only emit vmlinux relocations when required
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 20:33:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqb6G026mVrnnDm8@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <178901395291.3971858.16666031836463650276.b4-review@b4>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 09:19:12PM -0700, Nathan Chancellor wrote:
> > A kernel build consists of more than one linking pass on vmlinux.o and
> > vmlinux, at minimum two, and with CONFIG_KALLSYMS and BTF enabled on x86-64
> > for example there are 5 such stages.
> >
> > For architectures that build their own relocation tables (x86, riscv, mips,
> > s390), vmlinux is linked with the --emit-relocs parameter specified.
> >
> > However, this is only required on the final vmlinux link.
> >
> > Symbol tables of trial links preceding it don't need it because they
> > already check that System.map matches kallsyms symbols on each build.
> >
> > GNU ld is slow at emitting relocation tables, so this results in a
> > reduction in build time.
> >
> > Whole build, 128-thread Threadripper 9980X, best of N runs:
> >
> >                                          before   after     delta
> >                                          -------------------------------
> >   x86 defconfig, touch mm/vma.c, gcc        9.8s     9.4s    -0.43s (-4%)
> >   x86 defconfig, clean, gcc                28.6s    28.1s    -0.47s (-2%)
> >   x86 allmodconfig, touch mm/vma.c, gcc    44.0s    42.7s     -1.3s (-3%)
> >
> > Note that this has little impact on LLVM ld which performs this operation
> > more efficiently.
> >
> > Assisted-by: LLM
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) <ljs@kernel.org>
> >
> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
> > index 9bd226726358..de095b11e20a 100644
> > --- a/Makefile
> > +++ b/Makefile
> > @@ -1266,8 +1266,10 @@ LDFLAGS_vmlinux += --orphan-handling=$(CONFIG_LD_ORPHAN_WARN_LEVEL)
> >  endif
> >
> >  ifneq ($(CONFIG_ARCH_VMLINUX_NEEDS_RELOCS),)
> > -LDFLAGS_vmlinux	+= --emit-relocs --discard-none
> > +LDFLAGS_vmlinux	+= --discard-none
> > +LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs := --emit-relocs
> >  endif
> > +export LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs
> >
> >  # Align the architecture of userspace programs with the kernel
> >  USERFLAGS_FROM_KERNEL := --target=%
> > diff --git a/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux b/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux
> > index fcae1e432d9a..4b54aaeca65d 100644
> > --- a/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux
> > +++ b/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux
> > @@ -64,7 +64,8 @@ ARCH_POSTLINK := $(wildcard $(srctree)/arch/$(SRCARCH)/Makefile.postlink)
> >
> >  # Final link of vmlinux with optional arch pass after final link
> >  cmd_link_vmlinux =							\
> > -	$< "$(LD)" "$(KBUILD_LDFLAGS)" "$(LDFLAGS_vmlinux)" "$@";	\
> > +	$< "$(LD)" "$(KBUILD_LDFLAGS)" "$(LDFLAGS_vmlinux)" "$@"	\
> > +	   "$(LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs)";					\
> >  	$(if $(ARCH_POSTLINK), $(MAKE) -f $(ARCH_POSTLINK) $@, true)
> >
> >  targets += vmlinux.unstripped .vmlinux.export.o
> > diff --git a/scripts/link-vmlinux.sh b/scripts/link-vmlinux.sh
> > index 970ca10f8fa9..09c5222ccb94 100755
> > --- a/scripts/link-vmlinux.sh
> > +++ b/scripts/link-vmlinux.sh
> > @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ LD="$1"
> >  KBUILD_LDFLAGS="$2"
> >  LDFLAGS_vmlinux="$3"
> >  VMLINUX="$4"
> > +LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs="$5"
> >
> >  is_enabled() {
> >  	grep -q "^$1=y" include/config/auto.conf
> > @@ -96,6 +97,11 @@ vmlinux_link()
> >  		ldflags="${ldflags} ${wl}--strip-debug"
> >  	fi
> >
> > +	# Only the final link actually requires the relocations.
> > +	if [ "${output}" = "${VMLINUX}" ] && [ -n "${LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs}" ]; then
> > +		ldflags="${ldflags} ${wl}${LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs}"
> > +	fi
> > +
>
> We don't use LDFLAGS_vmlinux_relocs anywhere else, so do we even need
> this whole dance to just end up with the equivalent of
>
>   if [ "${output}" = "${VMLINUX}" ] && is_enabled CONFIG_ARCH_VMLINUX_NEEDS_RELOCS; then
>     ldflags="${ldflags} ${wl}--emit-relocs"
>   fi
>
> which would make this diff much simpler?

Nice, big simplification then :) fixed up for v2.

>
> That being said, Sashiko makes a comment that may be relevant, have not
> verified though:
>
>   https://sashiko.dev/#/message/20260908-build-speedup-v1-6-5dc1ac01672d@kernel.org

Yeah checked and not relevant :) I cc'd you on my
mostly-for-my-own-record-keeping reply to sashiko on that one :)

>
> --
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>

--
Cheers, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-13 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08 20:55 [PATCH 00/23] kbuild: significantly speed up kernel builds Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 01/23] scripts/mksysmap: drop the MODULE_INFO() symbols from kallsyms Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 19:47   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-10 11:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 11:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 19:00   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 02/23] scripts/mksysmap: fix escape of '$' in the __pi_ pattern Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 19:47   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-10 11:04     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 11:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 19:00   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 03/23] kallsyms: index symbols by token to speed up table compression Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 04/23] kallsyms: output binary data to speed output and kallsyms assembly Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 14:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-10  9:29   ` David Laight
2026-09-11 11:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12  6:38     ` [4/23] " Markus Elfring
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 05/23] kbuild: do not sort nm output where the order is irrelevant Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 06/23] kbuild: only emit vmlinux relocations when required Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-13 19:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 07/23] elf-parse: add section flags, symbol binding and a read-only mapping Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 08/23] kallsyms: reimplement mksysmap in C Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 18:52   ` Markus Elfring
2026-09-11 19:15   ` Markus Elfring
2026-09-11 19:42   ` Markus Elfring
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 09/23] kbuild: do not allocate .modinfo in vmlinux Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 10:59     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 10/23] kbuild: cache list, composite object state per object Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 11/23] kbuild: implement and use depcheck to check dependency timestamps Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 15:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 12/23] kbuild: avoid re-running compiler and linker probes Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 15:42     ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 10:30       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 18:10         ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 18:25           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 17:33       ` David Laight
2026-09-11 18:17         ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 18:24           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 19:34             ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 21:01             ` David Laight
2026-09-12  7:11             ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-13 20:02               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 10:26     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12  6:51       ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-12 10:03     ` David Laight
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 13/23] modpost: hash module source per-file, not per-byte Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 12:52   ` Petr Pavlu
2026-09-11 10:41     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 11:57       ` Petr Pavlu
2026-09-11 12:21         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 14/23] modpost: cache section relocation mismatch state Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 15/23] modpost: emit module descriptors as assembly Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 14:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 16/23] kbuild: batch module finalisation Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 15:48   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 10:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 17/23] modpost: perform srcversion hashing in parallel Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 10:32   ` David Laight
2026-09-11 10:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12 11:50   ` Yann Droneaud
2026-09-13 16:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 18/23] objtool: cache relocations and function dead end state, do less work Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12 22:47   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2026-09-13 20:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 19/23] objtool: decode instructions and resolve branch targets in parallel Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12 23:39   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2026-09-13 16:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 20/23] kbuild: rust: parallelise rustc front end Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 21:13   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-09-09 14:22     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 10:22   ` Björn Baron
2026-09-09 12:59     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-09-09 14:26       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 12:25     ` Nicolas Schier (FRITZ!)
2026-09-11 19:00   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 21/23] rust: make exports.o depend on the headers generated for it Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 22/23] kbuild: build rust crates in parallel with the rest of the build Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 23/23] kbuild: use pigz for gzip compression if available Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-11 11:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12  6:38       ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-13 19:31         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 21:06 ` [PATCH 00/23] kbuild: significantly speed up kernel builds Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-09 14:17   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 22:09     ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-11 11:25       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 15:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-09 16:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 21:58 ` Florian Fainelli
2026-09-11 11:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-12  6:44     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-13 16:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-11 11:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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