From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/10] liveupdate: Allow file handlers to mark retrieve failures as retryable
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2026 11:15:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <autW_3fjUS_hEhZf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2vxzv76ck7n9.fsf@kernel.org>
On 11-04 15:12, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 03 2026, David Matlack wrote:
>
> > From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> >
> > When luo_retrieve_file() invokes a handler's .retrieve() callback and it
> > returns an error, LUO currently records the error in
> > luo_file->retrieve_status and blocks any subsequent retrieve attempts.
> > This is necessary when the handler has already partially consumed or
> > freed the preserved KHO state.
> >
> > However, with user arguments passed to .retrieve(), a handler may fail
> > early while validating caller-supplied parameters (such as a missing
> > argument, an invalid or read-only target file descriptor, or a non-empty
> > target file) before touching any preserved KHO state. In such cases,
> > userspace should be able to fix the argument and retry
> > LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD, and if the file is never retrieved,
> > .finish() must still run to release the preserved KHO state.
> >
> > Add a retryable output flag to struct liveupdate_file_op_args. When a
> > handler sets args->retryable = true on error, luo_retrieve_file() leaves
> > luo_file->retrieve_status at 0 so the retrieve operation can be retried
> > and .finish() will still clean up the unconsumed preserved state if the
> > session is finished without retrieving the file.
>
> Should we give some sort of signal to userspace whether the error is
> retriable or not? How would it know it can or should try again?
The goal of args->retryable is internal kernel state tracking.
From userspace's perspective, LUO ioctls behave like any other syscall
where errno is the signal: userspace decides whether and how to retry
based on the error code (e.g. retrying on -EAGAIN, or picking a
different mount on -EROFS/-EACCES, or adjusting flags/arguments on
-EINVAL).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-04 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-03 1:02 [PATCH v3 00/10] liveupdate: Preserve tmpfs files across Live Update David Matlack
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] liveupdate: Pass user argument to file preserve and retrieve David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:17 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] selftests: liveupdate: Add tests for preserve and retrieve user argument David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:26 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] liveupdate: Allow file handlers to mark retrieve failures as retryable David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:12 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 16:15 ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] mm: Rename memfd_luo to shmem_luo David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:25 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] liveupdate: Don't WARN if tracking a retrieved file fails David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:32 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/shmem_luo: Don't make early retrieve failures permanent David Matlack
2026-11-04 15:01 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] mm/shmem_luo: Retrieve tmpfs files onto a tmpfs mount chosen by userspace David Matlack
2026-11-04 0:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:27 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow preserving tmpfs files that are still linked David Matlack
2026-11-04 0:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:45 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow retrieving tmpfs files with O_RDONLY David Matlack
2026-11-04 0:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:52 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03 1:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/liveupdate: Add a test for preserving tmpfs files David Matlack
2026-11-04 0:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:59 ` Pratyush Yadav
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