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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 01/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 11:18:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbb6b6fb-7b9d-45ab-87eb-82747c370cb1@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e22044c-f36e-41d0-bf1b-311ac8758da3@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 5/27/2025 6:42 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 5/27/25 11:40 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> On 5/27/25 12:54, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> On 5/27/25 10:23 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/25 15:51, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> On 5/15/25 3:51 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
>>>>>> index a2fbea0be535..2f54831e04e5 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
>>>>>> @@ -71,6 +71,8 @@ static const struct cpuid_dep cpuid_deps[] = {
>>>>>>   	{ X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL,		X86_FEATURE_CQM_LLC   },
>>>>>>   	{ X86_FEATURE_BMEC,			X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL   },
>>>>>>   	{ X86_FEATURE_BMEC,			X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL   },
>>>>>> +	{ X86_FEATURE_ABMC,			X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL   },
>>>>>> +	{ X86_FEATURE_ABMC,			X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL   },
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this dependency still accurate now that the implementation switched to the
>>>>> "extended event ID" variant of ABMC that no longer uses the event IDs associated
>>>>> with X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL?
>>>>
>>>> That's a good question. Unfortunately, we may need to retain this
>>>> dependency for now, as a significant portion of the code relies on
>>>> functions like resctrl_is_mbm_event(), resctrl_is_mbm_enabled(),
>>>> resctrl_arch_is_mbm_total_enabled(), and others.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Avoiding needing to change code is not a valid reason.
>>>
>>> I think that without this dependency the code will
>>> still rely on "functions like resctrl_is_mbm_event(),
>>> resctrl_is_mbm_enabled(), resctrl_arch_is_mbm_total_enabled(),
>>> and others." though.
>>>
>>> The core shift is to stop thinking about QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID
>>> to mean the same as X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL, similarly to stop
>>> thinking about QOS_L3_MBM_LOCAL_EVENT_ID to mean the same as
>>> X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL.
>>
>> oh. ok.
>>
>>>
>>> I expected that for backwards compatibility ABMC will start by
>>> enabling QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID and QOS_L3_MBM_LOCAL_EVENT_ID
>>> as part of its initialization, configuring them with the current
>>> defaults for which memory transactions are expected to be monitored
>>> by each. With these events enabled the existing flows using, for
>>> example, resctrl_is_mbm_event(), will continue to work as expected, no?
>>
>> Yes. It will work as it uses event id.
>>>
>>> This would require more familiarity with L3 monitoring enumeration
>>> on AMD since it will still be required to determine the number of
>>> RMIDs etc. but if ABMC does not actually depend on these CQM features
>>> then the current enumeration would need to be re-worked anyway.
>>
>> Are you suggesting to remove the dependency and rework ABMC enumeration in
>> get_rdt_mon_resources()?
>>
> 
> If you have an alternative proposal that would accurately reflect the ABMC
> and existing L3 MON features then we can surely consider it.

I don't see any other option at this point. Will change it next revision.

Thanks
Babu




  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-28 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 22:51 [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 01/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 17:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 17:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:40         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 23:42           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:18             ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 02/27] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 03/27] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 04/27] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 19:52     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 20:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 05/27] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:21     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 06/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:33     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 07/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 08/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:56     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 17:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:05         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 09/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free MBM counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 10/27] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 11/27] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 22:16     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-23 21:08       ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-26 13:14         ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 21:41           ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 21:41             ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 22:00               ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 22:13                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 23:48                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-09 14:01               ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 21:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 12/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce event configuration modes Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 15:21     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 13/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign MBM events Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:05     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 14/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:25     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 15/27] x86/resctrl: Report 'Unassigned' for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:58     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 16/27] x86/resctrl: Pass entire struct rdtgroup rather than passing individual members Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:07     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 17/27] x86/resctrl: Add the support for reading ABMC counters Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:25     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 18/27] x86/resctrl: Add definitions for MBM event configuration Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:00     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-29 20:58       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 13:41         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 19/27] x86/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/ Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:54     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 20/27] x86/resctrl: Provide interface to update the event configurations Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 22:35     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 21/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_assign_on_mkdir to configure assignments Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 23:03     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-30 20:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 14:00         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 22/27] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 23/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_L3_assignments to list assignments in a group Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-30  0:55     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 24/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to modify " Babu Moger
2025-05-26  9:48   ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 15:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 25/27] x86/resctrl: Hide the BMEC related files when mbm_cnt_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 26/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 27/27] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-05-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-05-20 15:28   ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 16:06     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 17:51       ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 18:23         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 23:25           ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 23:44             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21  9:18               ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:03                 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 23:43                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22  0:10                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22  0:21                       ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22  8:47                         ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:32                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 17:21                           ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22 15:44                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-22 16:33                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 19:15                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-10 23:19                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-11 18:29                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-11 21:21                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-21 14:27               ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:05                 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22  9:14                   ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:33                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 20:44 ` Reinette Chatre

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