Linux Documentation
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>,
	<ljs@kernel.org>, Li Zhe <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<juri.lelli@redhat.com>, <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	<dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>, <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	<bsegall@google.com>, <mgorman@suse.de>, <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	<kprateek.nayak@amd.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<tim.c.chen@intel.com>, <mkoutny@suse.com>, <tj@kernel.org>,
	<chen.yu@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] sched/numa: Add per-process automatic NUMA balancing control
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 16:01:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcabbe25-5b2c-464a-a22d-5375a342f938@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDY6zLcEc4kGhC9GSFsOsREadkWN7Q4CmZuR_m_BMHAyg@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/16/2026 3:38 PM, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 1:51 PM Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com> wrote:
>> A more complex scenario is when cgroup A and cgroup B become threaded domains:
>>
>>                           root
>>                          /    \
>>                         X      Y
>>                         |      |
>>                         A      B          A, B: threaded domains (thread roots)
>>                        / \    / \         separate memory.max / io.max
>>                      A1   A2 B1  B2       threaded cgroups
>>                      ^        ^
>>                      |        |
>>                      +--------+
>>                    want to share one cache group
>>
>> In the above case, we might need to change the deployed cgroup hierarchy.
> 
> I think we can enable LLC-aware scheduling for both A1 and A2 — does
> that sound right?
> 

Here A1 wants to share data with B1, but A2 does not want to share data
with B2 nor B1 nor A1. Enabling cache-aware for A1 and A2 might not help
in this case.

>>
>> Suppose threads in A1 and threads in A2 belong to the same process Pa,
>> this reminds me of the cgroup bpf NUMA balancing case: after enabling
>> NUMA balancing for A1 but not setting it for A2, what would be the final
>> NUMA balancing decision for process Pa, is it enabled or disabled?
>> The NUMA balancing scan/invalid seems to be per process, so if we change
>> the setting of its threads, the whole process will be impacted. Or maybe
>> we should not enable NUMA balancing for threaded cgroups? Anyway I haven't
>> digged into your cgroup bpf patch set yet, let me try to look at it.
> 
> cgroup NUMAB works the same way: the setting is per cgroup and opt-in.
> For Pa in your example, since its threads spread across A1 and A2, you
> would enable it on both — enabling it on only one of them is not
> meaningful.
> 

I see. I haven't yet digged into your code, is there a per cgroup flag
cgroup.numab.enabled? Would there be a logic in the kernel, when 
A1.numab.enabled
is written to true, the kernel detects all the other cgroups {X} that 
contains threads
share the same mm_struct as A1's threads/tasks, and then update {X}'s 
numab.enabled
to the same value as A1, to keep consistency? In summary, if threads are 
spread
cross different cgroups, when you set the enable flag for 1 cgroup, will the
kernel iterates all the other cgroups to update their flags as well? Or
leverage userspace to do that?

thanks,
Chenyu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-16  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08 12:24 [PATCH 0/4] sched/numa: Add per-process automatic NUMA balancing control Li Zhe
2026-09-08 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/numa: Track per-process automatic NUMA balancing mode Li Zhe
2026-10-13  9:54   ` Chen Yu
2026-09-08 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/numa: Add prctl controls for process mode Li Zhe
2026-09-08 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/4] proc: Report process NUMA balancing mode Li Zhe
2026-09-08 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/4] Documentation: Describe per-process NUMA balancing control Li Zhe
2026-10-13  7:39 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched/numa: Add per-process automatic " Chen Yu
2026-10-13  9:31   ` Yafang Shao
2026-10-14  7:16     ` Li Zhe
2026-10-15 19:58     ` Tim Chen
2026-10-16  2:53       ` Yafang Shao
2026-10-16  5:38         ` Chen Yu
2026-10-16  7:38           ` Yafang Shao
2026-10-16  8:01             ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-10-16  8:18               ` Yafang Shao
2026-10-14  7:05   ` Li Zhe

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=bcabbe25-5b2c-464a-a22d-5375a342f938@intel.com \
    --to=yu.c.chen@intel.com \
    --cc=bsegall@google.com \
    --cc=chen.yu@linux.dev \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
    --cc=juri.lelli@redhat.com \
    --cc=kprateek.nayak@amd.com \
    --cc=laoar.shao@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lizhe.67@bytedance.com \
    --cc=ljs@kernel.org \
    --cc=mgorman@suse.de \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=mkoutny@suse.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=tim.c.chen@intel.com \
    --cc=tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
    --cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox