From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
"Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:13:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <be6d23c8-3e93-4bdc-8b33-d3af7df7cc94@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20ec195a-c4dd-48d9-89f6-4d48fd438fe8@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 3/13/25 11:08, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 3/12/25 11:14 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> Hi Reinette,
>>
>> On 3/12/25 12:14, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> Hi Babu,
>>>
>>> On 3/12/25 9:03 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> Hi Reinette,
>>>>
>>>> On 3/12/25 10:07, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> Hi Babu,
>>>>>
..
>>>>>> We can add the mkdir support later. That way we can provide basic ABMC
>>>>>> support without too much code complexity with mkdir support.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not clear to me how you envision the "first phase". Is it what you
>>>>> proposed above, for example:
>>>>> #echo "LclFill, LclNTWr, RmtFill" >
>>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>>>>>
>>>>> In above the counter configuration name is a file.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. That is correct.
>>>>
>>>> There will be two configuration files by default when resctrl is mounted
>>>> when ABMC is enabled.
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How could mkdir support be added to this later if there are already files present?
>>>>
>>>> We already have these directories when resctrl is mounted.
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_total_bytes
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_local_bytes
>>>>
>>>> We dont need "mkdir" support for default configurations.
>>>
>>> I was referring to the "mkdir" support for additional configurations that
>>> I understood you are thinking about adding later. For example,
>>> (copied from Peter's message
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCiii0vXOF06mfV=kVLBzhfNo0SFqt4kQGwGSGVUqvr2Dg@mail.gmail.com/):
>>>
>>>
>>> # mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>>> # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>>> # echo LclNTWr > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>>> # echo LclSlowFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>>> # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>>> LclFill
>>> LclNTWr
>>> LclSlowFill
>>>
>>> Any "later" work needs to be backward compatible with the first phase.
>>
>> Actually, we dont need extra file "event_filter".
>> This was discussed here.
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoChLL8p49eANYgQ0dJiFs7G=223fGae+LJyx3DwEhNeR8A@mail.gmail.com/
>
> I undestand from that exchange that it is possible to read/write from
> an *existing* kernfs file but it is not obvious to me how that file is
> planned to be created.
My bad.. I misspoke here. We need "event_filter" file under each
configuration.
>
> My understanding of the motivation behind support for "mkdir" is to enable
> user space to create custom counter configurations.
>
That is correct.
> I understand that ABMC support aims to start with existing mbm_total_bytes/mbm_local_bytes
> configurations but I believe the consensus is that custom configurations need
> to be supported in the future.
> If resctrl starts with support where counter configuration as
> managed with a *file*, for example:
> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes
> how will user space create future custom configurations?
> As I understand that is only possible with mkdir.
>
>>
>> # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>> # echo LclNTWr > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>> # echo LclSlowFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>> # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes
>> LclFill
>> LclNTWr
>> LclSlowFill
>>
>> In the future, we can add mkdir support.
>>
>> # mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
>
> This is exactly my concern. resctrl should not start with a user space where
> a counter configuration is a file (mbm_local_bytes/mbm_total_bytes) and then
> switch user space interface to have counter configuration be done with
> directories.
>
>> # echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
>> # cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
>> LclFill
>
> ... wait ... user space writes to the directory?
>
My bad. This is wrong. Let me rewrite the steps below.
>
>
>>
>> #echo mbm_read_only > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
>>
>> Which would result in the creation of test/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_read_only
>>
>> So, there is not breakage of backword compatibility.
>
> The way I understand it I am seeing many incompatibilities. Perhaps I am missing
> something. Could you please provide detailed steps of how first phase and
> second phase would look?
No. You didn't miss anything. I misspoke on few steps.
Here are the steps. Just copying steps from Peters proposal.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCiii0vXOF06mfV=kVLBzhfNo0SFqt4kQGwGSGVUqvr2Dg@mail.gmail.com/
1. Mount the resctrl
mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
2. When ABMC is supported two default configurations will be created.
a. info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes/event_filter
b. info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
These files will be populated with default total and local events
# cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_total_bytes/event_filter
VictimBW
RmtSlowFill
RmtNTWr
RmtFill
LclFill
LclNTWr
LclSlowFill
# cat info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
LclFill,
LclNTWr
LclSlowFill
3. Users will have options to update the event configuration.
echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
4. As usual the events can be read from the mon_data directories.
#mkdir /sys/fs/resctrl/test
#cd /sys/fs/resctr/test
#cat test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_tota_bytes
101010
#cat test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
32323
5. There will be 3 files created in each group's mon_data directory when
ABMC is supported.
a. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
b. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_shared
c. test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/unassign
6. Events can be assigned/unassigned by these commands
# echo mbm_total_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
# echo mbm_local_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/assign_exclusive
# echo mbm_local_bytes > test/mon_data/mon_L3_01/unassign
Note:
I feel 3 files are excessive here. We can probably achieve everything in
just one file.
Not sure about mbm_assign_control interface as there are concerns with
group listing holding the lock for long.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Second phase, we can add support for "mkdir"
1. mkdir info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only
2. mkdir option will create "event_filter" file.
info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only/event_filter
3. Users can modify event configuration.
echo LclFill > info/L3_MON/counter_configs/mbm_read_only/event_filter
4. Users can assign the events
echo mbm_read_only > test/mon_data/mon_L3_00/assign_exclusive
5. Events can be read in
test/mon_data/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_read_only
--
Thanks
Babu Moger
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2025-01-22 20:20 [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 01/23] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute to functions called from resctrl_late_init() Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:28 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 16:53 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:29 ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 02/23] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 03/23] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 04/23] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 05/23] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 06/23] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 16:15 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 18:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 22:57 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 23:28 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:05 ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:25 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 07/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 23:41 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06 ` James Morse
2025-02-21 19:44 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 08/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 17:18 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-07 18:52 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 20:26 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 09/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 10/23] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 0:51 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-06 1:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 15:56 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21 18:08 ` James Morse
2025-02-19 13:28 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:08 ` James Morse
2025-02-07 17:30 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 6:24 ` Xin Li
2025-02-06 16:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 10:07 ` Xin Li
2025-02-11 19:44 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-12 8:33 ` Xin Li
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:57 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:30 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 18:07 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:33 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:07 ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 20:10 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters Babu Moger
2025-02-06 0:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:59 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 13:31 ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 13/23] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 14/23] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:32 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:00 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06 ` James Morse
2025-02-21 22:24 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 15/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assigm MBM events Babu Moger
2025-02-06 1:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 21:10 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:25 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 16/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassigm " Babu Moger
2025-02-06 3:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 16:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-22 0:36 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 17/23] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:27 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:41 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 14:09 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 17:55 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 10:35 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 13:40 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 17:14 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 22:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 23:42 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-27 11:07 ` Peter Newman
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 18/23] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:39 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 19/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 18:54 ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 20/23] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-02-21 18:06 ` James Morse
2025-02-24 15:49 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 17:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 21:18 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 22:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 21/23] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 22/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:53 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:09 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:44 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 21:29 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 16:00 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 17:17 ` Dave Martin
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2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 23/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
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2025-02-10 19:46 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 16:07 ` Dave Martin
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2025-02-21 20:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07 ` James Morse
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2025-02-03 14:54 ` [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
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