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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:46:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c290a3cb-1cec-4aa3-969c-8fba504eb3d1@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kthmv63jrvrr3shhzhhcib7qrjp7sjkah65kogbfphfr6wg6cb@z5zydz6ov7pv>

On 23/06/2025 1:41 pm, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 04:21:38PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 6/20/25 16:08, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> But, the resulting code is wonky. It needs to do something more like this:
>>>>
>>>> 	if ((error_code & (X86_PF_WRITE | X86_PF_USER)) != X86_PF_USER)
>>>> 		return false;
>>>>
>>>> 	if (error_code & X86_PF_INSTR))
>>>> 		return __emulate_vsyscall(regs, address);
>>> To do this, LASS needs a proper interlink against NX || SMEP.
>>>
>>> If neither NX nor SMEP are active, the CPU does not report X86_PF_INSTR,
>>> meaning that fetches are reported as plain reads.
>> Interesting point.
>>
>> I think the easiest way to do this is just make a cpuid_deps[] entry for
>> LASS and NX. If there's a CPU where LASS is available but where NX isn't
>> available, we have much bigger problems on our hands.
> I am not sure what I suppose to do here.
>
> Sohil pointed out that with LASS we get #GP on vsyscall, not #PF and PFEC
> is not relevant for LASS.

Correct.  That was my mistake originally.

>
> So, IIUC, that's dependency of vsyscall PF on NX. Do we want to disable
> vsyscall on boot if NX is not available?
>
> BTW, why do we even support !NX on X86_64? Is there such HW?

Yes.  Early P4 steppings had no NX at all.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20 13:53 [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:25   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 15:36   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 23:46       ` Xin Li
2025-06-21  0:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-21  0:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 17:40             ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  2:04               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  4:57                 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  5:11                   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:12     ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:16       ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-20 17:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23  8:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 10:21           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 13:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 15:18               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 16:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 17:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:25                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 10:43                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-27 13:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 18:14   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 18:24     ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:10       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-23 16:25       ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 16:42         ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 23:13           ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 23:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  0:10               ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-24  2:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 18:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 02/16] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 03/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:33   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 04/16] x86/efi: Move runtime service initialization to arch/x86 Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:35   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:42     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 05/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:44   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 06/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:55   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:43   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:18       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 23:29         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:21       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-21  3:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 12:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 12:46           ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2025-06-23 15:32           ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 15:45             ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-24 11:37             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-24 14:11               ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-24 14:59                 ` [PATCH] x86/vsyscall: Do not require X86_PF_INSTR to emulate vsyscall Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 08/16] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 14:47   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 09/16] x86/vsyscall: Add vsyscall emulation for #GP Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 10/16] x86/vsyscall: Disable LASS if vsyscall mode is set to EMULATE Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 11/16] x86/cpu: Set LASS CR4 bit as pinning sensitive Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 12/16] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:20   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:53     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 14/16] x86/cpu: Make LAM depend on LASS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 15/16] x86/cpu: Enable LASS during CPU initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 16/16] x86: Re-enable Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:38 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 22:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 22:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:46     ` Dave Hansen

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