From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
Cc: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:42:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3838a4d-4b7f-4673-a416-9aa569eeddd0@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALPaoChiVXWz6ObQsLZudNo+ammmPnf_iLvvETDswzwY0n0rQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Peter,
On 2/27/24 14:06, Peter Newman wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:37 AM Moger, Babu <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>> On 2/27/24 12:26, Peter Newman wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:12 AM Moger, Babu <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/24 15:20, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, if I understand correctly, theoretically, when ABMC is enabled then
>>>>> "num_rmids" can be U32_MAX (after a quick look it is not clear to me why r->num_rmid
>>>>> is not unsigned, tbd if number of directories may also be limited by kernfs).
>>>>> User space could theoretically create more monitor groups than the number of
>>>>> rmids that a resource claims to support using current upstream enumeration.
>>>>
>>>> CPU or task association still uses PQR_ASSOC(MSR C8Fh). There are only 11
>>>> bits(depends on specific h/w) to represent RMIDs. So, we cannot create
>>>> more than this limit(r->num_rmid).
>>>>
>>>> In case of ABMC, h/w uses another counter(mbm_assignable_counters) with
>>>> RMID to assign the monitoring. So, assignment limit is
>>>> mbm_assignable_counters. The number of mon groups limit is still r->num_rmid.
>>>
>>> That is not entirely true. As long as you don't need to maintain
>>> bandwidth counts for unassigned monitoring groups, there's no need to
>>> allocate a HW RMID to a monitoring group.
>>
>> We don't need to allocate a h/w counter for unassigned group.
>> My proposal is to allocate h/w counter only if user requests a assignment.
>> The limit for assigned events at time is mbm_assignable_counters(32 right
>> now).
>
> I said "RMID", not "counter". The point is, the main purpose served by
> the RMID in an unassigned mongroup is providing a unique value to
> write into the task_struct to indicate group membership.
In case of ABMC, cpu(or task) association still uses RMID value stored in
"struct mongroup" data structure. Same value is written to PQR_ASSOC(MSR
C8Fh). It needs to be a valid value. Hope that make sense.
>
>>
>>>
>>> In my soft-ABMC prototype, where a limited number of HW RMIDs are
>>> allocated to assigned monitoring groups, I was forced to replace the
>>> HW RMID value stored in the task_struct to a pointer to the struct
>>> mongroup, since the RMID value assigned to the mongroup would
>>> frequently change, resulting in excessive walks down the tasklist to
>>> find all of the tasks using the previous value.
You are using this pointer as unique value. This will work as long as you
are not writing this value to PQR_ASSOC MSR.
>>>
>>> However, the number of hardware monitor group identifiers supported
>>> (i.e., RMID, PARTID:PMG) is usually high enough that I don't think
>>> there's much motivation to support unlimited monitoring groups. In
>>> both soft-RMID and soft-ABMC, I didn't bother supporting more groups
>>> than num_rmids, because the number was large enough.
>>
>> What is soft-ABMC?
>
> It's the term I'm using to describe[1] the approach of using the
> monitor assignment interface to allocate a small number of RMIDs to
> monitoring groups.
>
> -Peter
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCiRD6j_Rp7ffew+PtGTF4rWDORwbuRQqH2i-cY5SvWQBg@mail.gmail.com/
--
Thanks
Babu Moger
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-27 20:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-01 0:57 [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 16:29 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 17:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:37 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:17 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 19:17 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:37 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/resctrl: Detect ABMC feature details Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/resctrl: Add the mount option for ABMC feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 16:48 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 17:40 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-05 18:50 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/resctrl: Initialize ABMC counters bitmap Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign a ABMC counter Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface unassign " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 17:55 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 18:09 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/resctrl: Update ABMC assignment on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2023-12-05 0:13 ` [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Peter Newman
2023-12-05 23:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 15:40 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 16:12 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:07 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 23:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:34 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 22:58 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 19:45 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-08 20:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-15 2:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 19:52 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-15 1:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 20:00 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 18:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-03 21:03 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 21:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-04 13:48 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-05 23:51 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-06 0:13 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-12 19:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 20:38 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-12 21:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 21:54 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-23 10:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-23 14:58 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-16 19:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-16 21:39 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] x86/cpufeatures: Add word 21 for scattered CPUID features Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-02-20 17:56 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:27 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2024-02-20 18:14 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:23 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display ABMC state Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] x86/resctrl: Introdruce rdtgroup_assign_enable_write Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] x86/resctrl: Report Unsupported when MBM events are read Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] x86/resctrl: Initialize assignable counters bitmap Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign the RMID Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface unassign " Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] x86/resctrl: Update RMID assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:32 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2024-01-19 20:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-02 4:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02 5:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02 21:57 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-05 22:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-08 17:29 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-16 20:18 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-19 18:00 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:11 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-23 21:47 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:14 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 20:48 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 17:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-23 20:11 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 22:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-26 17:59 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-26 21:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-27 18:12 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 18:26 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 19:37 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 20:06 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 20:42 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2024-02-27 23:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-28 17:59 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-28 20:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-29 20:37 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-29 21:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-01 20:36 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-01 23:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 19:34 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-04 19:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 22:24 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 14:58 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 17:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-05 19:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-07 18:57 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 20:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 22:33 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 22:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 23:14 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-08 17:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-08 3:50 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-08 17:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 13:30 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-11 15:40 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 15:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 17:07 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 17:15 ` Reinette Chatre
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