From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-lj1-f175.google.com (mail-lj1-f175.google.com [209.85.208.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B77951DDA18 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2025 15:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.208.175 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1764428508; cv=none; b=thxuvSJeanGbu5k7FggzIjJsUBypYmI0f2tKYStaXVU+UidPG9lUPYZrIpPq1ebSrfSurIbU8yu5+35gHNqu4f2IfepiRBY6CBwUcoHbYPyZtcLdTBSTAWVcJnFnHu5Z4ExNxbLEkTt8WaYIbO5rkm3kRGZVZAYuW44ZPY5cmWw= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1764428508; c=relaxed/simple; bh=S82F1K7S3wq+wEZwqZYNaKQ6Z90pqwCr0/1QZlEP1+0=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=RSWCJvJUWaKiOjPGs66wq7kyLHODW38TjYZ/L9meX2/hiR7x1unLV0X4x03YwIxWcFgj8mtwjSugDLuXAilB0vFDTDY189ZR0YI+EOYXB7vtQE49w01PHgtHZyIew11JxUuqJwW2eqPcIWjapfoJkETXGxwClTOYIBgJi3Rt98g= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=HHuzSgkN; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.208.175 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="HHuzSgkN" Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-37b9728a353so1992711fa.0 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2025 07:01:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1764428505; x=1765033305; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:cc:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :sender:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2DyIri4gHptV5hDHgdSaKb6KWPh3tki3cdXW1D5aCBI=; b=HHuzSgkNo8bCdB83l/XSrNqWuUvM2pvRHnQ1s6d1V/YSOOmrTXGZA5L6rYgiyZmYP4 uWF7/dcj8afw9Fs15l8jzDbcy2zTq2HKY1GNlok4HRSM54eK5N7pxgXq1WYlPHBll3p9 1GWTlrITo3tSJfVkDtJSMp/JKRNxpCVB9TognclaIKG1r1EsVL0hNWR73B4l1DWqAhUu vtU3zK1TT2yD3e2iIBoXlTkDHJeRNsK+kmAkEYKAAtxVvHrW4UZ0+nHpW81TLk6DcQoL C+RHImekTlrHfeR0P2X8lFgVJk7z0cmYrj1qHpoguoU+aSQa4j/mL6ykQ3XZpH3V2qLV mZrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1764428505; x=1765033305; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:cc:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :sender:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=2DyIri4gHptV5hDHgdSaKb6KWPh3tki3cdXW1D5aCBI=; b=P5F+bMu4phlqVN04Q0Uai46ZQM5uv6B0GtGB6ukwd/E5tTidg85XjSjZ/iw4Zt2I8H QJ/zWBMyAzfn+NZW0a4iPjf2dw8dAZbXj8SduUfVrUkNCl3fjwo/Y2ouqHruNpRHa7LF Gmd/j39MTv6ObUAXjbGsWM9w42CC3PMSODG/0KISHgoPfZWGn/QvtKlycgUzDyqt6/CF HHZv4Ltm48K6Pp6gOLu9w6ZQmulCfOgLrWDGz4zpoWGuz2Tc2z6tkDzqUIbixp73bz4t pLtcywY14own8EkvzUr7FWcY+SN5K5+OwhodHBspLIzRP9J2DFsuP1ZSPsVERD1TZ7iw OesQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxmBgpGRa6oIk3CYB21g5dUaMztYbN+GzLr/UT2wE/IGwW/aksb QqqzGHHdc5IryYuzwIRMWFLrfWQIB07mSDZggJ0rVgVz2ZzIodiT34qu X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuqoGtaNpuDHERzVNFLVnCz1wVmOKhidfQ38I6TAZVhxw+Xv8b3BQ5GaXePxtn i3S60H/txFBKt5/TnTUcfe56zTTpiwUFwoDJPZw7UsoS8w624LhAx0Dp3c02Df/6n/xk5rFHost eNjqDCG+H/VbxUv/4GI6HVJnJpH51WDXSr21WffOi2Lbhp193WJoTQzE17+kSmPCdVRqiJWhPfV eePVYRqvB6XK9osJ+B1MrarmCUyzEgC1KSxLBow7Lw2vNHVd4qAUbJFvVQA0at2l9FbmBD8CKgZ 2tcuCvYWFOTaXcU63GDhv1WGwJqvfqFne+nsZdqXCjOCdWOWp++wT82IP83GX+CaeAng7elE6yL SvFWR5p4iOfG6JaRsZ0sbnAVDnTsuDwPrHC2yhVjIdD7Xe1smLp5rkP5vb5XpdvSxvsOmRJjtVy d16OHUfbPho2Xx3a+Mio97Z7t4gCLD+7zvDTqh1pC56qfv X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEYMiFXC3v2TmshLvb59zyfSm9LpspO+/OfzyuqNLM4yBmG5ZGE/1yqj4SZxSsPzD0yHRxSmg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:2148:b0:369:55f3:57f with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-37cd92cd20amr61236061fa.35.1764428504526; Sat, 29 Nov 2025 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.149] (nat-0-0.nsk.sibset.net. [5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-37d2369067bsm17074441fa.9.2025.11.29.07.01.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Nov 2025 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maxim Nikulin Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2025 22:01:41 +0700 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: admin: devices: /dev/sr for SCSI CD-ROM To: Bagas Sanjaya , Jonathan Corbet Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" , "Martin K. Petersen" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org References: Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU From: Max Nikulin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29/11/2025 13:13, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 12:12:32AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: >> +Usage of ``/dev/scd?`` as alternate SCSI CD-ROM names for ``sr?`` devices >> +ended around year 2011. > > What about "Support for /dev/scd? as alternative names for /dev/sr? has been > removed in 2011"? If others support your suggestion then I do not mind. Feel free to commit preferred variant ignoring my patch. I would be more verbose however by adding that it was removed namely from udev: Creation of ``/dev/scd?`` alternative names for ``sr?`` CD-ROM and other optical drives (using SCSI commands) was removed in ``udev-174`` (released in 2011). Perhaps I am biased by my confusion. Noticed that wodim tries to access currently absent /dev/scd0 for kernels >= X.6, I tried git blame game in kernel repository to find kernel version when scd were renamed to sr. It took some time for me to realize that it is impossible to determine scd vs. sr from kernel version. That is why I would consider adding explicit mention of udev. Otherwise for me it sounds like that scd? names were removed from kernel. I am not a native English speaker, so I do not insist on my variant. How long I should wait for comments before submitting another revision of the patch? I hope, pending changes are not an obstacle for those who are tempting to review the whole devices.rst file.