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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Documentation" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Workflows" <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
	"Fox Foster" <fox@tardis.ed.ac.uk>,
	"Federico Vaga" <federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it>,
	"Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"Konstantin Ryabitsev" <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: management-style: Reword "had better known the details" phrase
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:18:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0070beb-f6fd-477c-a315-a2c6db99c227@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK_XIoncppxWp7sB@archie.me>



On 8/27/25 9:12 PM, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:33:12AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> As a non-native English speaker, "had better know" looks really
>> weird on my eyes, as, at least for me, "know" is a verb.
>>
>> Heh, I just discovered today by looking on a dictionary:
>>
>> 	https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/know
>>
>> That know can informally be used as a noun (a shortcut for
>> knowledge?).
>>
>> For me as a non-native English speaker, when one writes:
>>
>> 	They "most likely know"		(know here is a verb)
>>
>> or:
>> 	They "had better knowledge"	(knowledge is a name)
>>
>> Things become clearer.
>>
>> Heh:
>>
>> 	They "had better know the details better than you"
>>
>> the "better" word is used twice, and yeah, this is requires more
>> fluency in English for a non-native speaker to get what it says.
>>
>> Considering that "know" (noun) seems to be a shortcut
>> for "knowledge", what about:
>>
>> 	They "had better knowledge about the details than you"
> 
> That can be alternative.

Nope, afraid not. Just leave it as is or (I think) 2 people have suggested
something like "They should know better about the details than you".

-- 
~Randy


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-27  4:48 [PATCH v2] Documentation: management-style: Reword "had better known the details" phrase Bagas Sanjaya
2025-08-27  5:17 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-08-27  5:41 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-27  9:33   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-27 11:28     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-27 12:48       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-27 13:05         ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-27 13:49           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-27 14:10           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-28  4:12     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-08-28  4:18       ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2025-08-28 23:08         ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-08-28 23:19           ` Laurent Pinchart

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