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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: introduce THP deferred setting
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 14:24:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db190425-9959-4d0c-b928-c537c69bc5a7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a41ea49b-2bac-44c8-9a4a-dd55dfd0d171@lucifer.local>

>>
>> Anyhow, to me the dependency is obvious, but I've followed the MM meeting
>> discussions, development etc.
> 
> Right but is it clear to Andrew? I mean the cover letter was super unclear
> to me.

I mean, assuming that it would not be clear to Andrew (and I think it is 
clear to Andrew), I we would get CCed on these emails and could 
immediately scream STOOOOOP :)

And until this would hit mm-stable, a bit more time would pass.

> 
> What's to prevent things getting merged out of order?

Fortunately, there are still people working here and not machines (at 
least, that's what I hope).

> And do people 'just
> have to remember' to resend?

Yes, in this case Nico wants to get his stuff upstream and must drive it 
once the dependencies are met IMHO.

> 
> If there's a requirement related to the ordering of these series it really
> has to be expressed very clearly.

Jup. I'll note that for now there was no strict rule what to tag as RFC 
and what not that I know of. Of course, if people send broken, 
half-implemented, untested ... crap, it should *clearly* be RFC.

People should be spelling out dependencies in any case (especially for 
non-RFC versions) clearly.

I'll note that even if there would be a rule, I'm afraid we don't have a 
good place to document it (and not sure if people would find it or even 
try finding it ...) :/

A big problem is when some subsystems have their own rules for how to 
handle such things. That causes major pain for contributors ...

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15  3:38 [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: introduce THP deferred setting Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:38 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] mm: defer THP insertion to khugepaged Nico Pache
2025-05-20  7:43   ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-14 11:25   ` Klara Modin
2025-06-17 17:52     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:38 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] mm: document (m)THP defer usage Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:38 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] khugepaged: add defer option to mTHP options Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:38 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] selftests: mm: add defer to thp setting parser Nico Pache
2025-05-20  9:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: introduce THP deferred setting Yafang Shao
2025-05-21 10:19   ` Nico Pache
2025-05-21 11:35     ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-20  9:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 10:41   ` Nico Pache
2025-05-21 11:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 11:46       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 12:00         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 12:24           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-21 12:33             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 12:40               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-29  4:26       ` Nico Pache

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