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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] Documentation: locking: Add local_lock_nested_bh() to locktypes
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:06:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db8defe4-14bf-4060-803f-e8b09a941d42@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250815093858.930751-3-bigeasy@linutronix.de>

On 8/15/25 5:38 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> local_lock_nested_bh() is used within networking where applicable.
> Document why it is used and how it behaves.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> ---
>   Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst b/Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst
> index 80c914f6eae7a..37b6a5670c2fa 100644
> --- a/Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst
> @@ -204,6 +204,27 @@ per-CPU data structures on a non PREEMPT_RT kernel.
>   local_lock is not suitable to protect against preemption or interrupts on a
>   PREEMPT_RT kernel due to the PREEMPT_RT specific spinlock_t semantics.
>   
> +CPU local scope and bottom-half
> +-------------------------------
> +
> +Per-CPU variables that are accessed only in softirq context should not rely on
> +the assumption that this context is implicitly protected due to being
> +non-preemptible. In a PREEMPT_RT kernel, softirq context is preemptible, and
> +synchronizing every bottom-half-disabled section via implicit context results
> +in an implicit per-CPU "big kernel lock."
> +
> +A local_lock_t together with local_lock_nested_bh() and
> +local_unlock_nested_bh() for locking operations help to identify the locking
> +scope.
> +
> +When lockdep is enabled, these functions verify that data structure access
> +occurs within softirq context.
> +Unlike local_lock(), local_unlock_nested_bh() does not disable preemption and
> +does not add overhead when used without lockdep.

Should it be local_lock_nested_bh()? It doesn't make sense to compare 
local_unlock_nested_bh() against local_lock(). In a PREEMPT_RT kernel, 
local_lock() disables migration but not preemption.

Cheers,
Longman

> +
> +On a PREEMPT_RT kernel, local_lock_t behaves as a real lock and
> +local_unlock_nested_bh() serializes access to the data structure, which allows
> +removal of serialization via local_bh_disable().
>   
>   raw_spinlock_t and spinlock_t
>   =============================


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-15  9:38 [PATCH v2 0/3] Documentation: Add real-time bits Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-15  9:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Documentation: seqlock: Add a SPDX license identifier Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-15  9:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Documentation: locking: Add local_lock_nested_bh() to locktypes Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-18 18:06   ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-08-19 10:00     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-19 17:38       ` Waiman Long
2025-08-15  9:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Documentation: Add real-time to core-api Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-18 16:16   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-19  8:03     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-19 13:20       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-19 13:28         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-21 18:55           ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-22  7:08             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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