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From: Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
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	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
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	Ethan Nelson-Moore <enelsonmoore@gmail.com>,
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	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V3 2/7] netdevsim: Register devlink after device init
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:02:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eb525345-da07-414c-9d05-7e00e3eb472f@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260610165053.7c91f331@kernel.org>



On 11/06/2026 2:50, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 21:10:25 +0300 Mark Bloch wrote:
>> devl_register() makes the devlink instance visible to userspace. A later
>> patch also makes registration the point where devlink core may call
>> eswitch_mode_set() to apply a boot-time default eswitch mode.
>>
>> Move netdevsim registration after all objects (resources, params, regions,
>> traps, debugfs etc) are initialized, and after the initial eswitch mode is
>> set to legacy.
>>
>> Move devl_unregister() to the beginning of nsim_drv_remove(), before those
>> devlink objects are torn down. This keeps devlink register/unregister as
>> the notification barrier and makes the later object teardown paths run
>> after devlink is no longer registered, so they do not emit their own
>> netlink DEL notifications.
> 
> This is going backwards. At some point someone from nVidia thought that
> we can order our way out of locking, so mlx5 is likely ordered this way,
> but this must not be required, or in any way normalized.
> We (syzbot) quickly discovered that it doesn't cover all corner cases.
> devl_lock() is exposed specifically to allow the driver to finish
> whatever init it needs without letting user space invoke callbacks, yet.
> Almost (?) all driver callbacks hold devl_lock(), so maybe the devlink
> instance is "visible" to user space but that should not matter.

Let me clarify.

No locking is changed here, and I don't want to make register/unregister
ordering a substitute for devl_lock().

The only requirement I have for this series is that devl_register() is called
only once the driver is ready for devlink core to call eswitch_mode_set().
That follows from the earlier direction to have the core apply the default
mode from devl_register() instead of adding an explicit driver call.

So if the objection is to the commit message wording, I can fix that and drop
the "notification barrier" language.

For unregister, I can probably leave the old ordering as-is. I moved it only
to mirror the register path, which felt cleaner, but it is not required for
the default-mode change and as the lock is held I see no issue with doing
that.

Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-11  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-05 18:10 [PATCH net-next V3 0/7] devlink: Add boot-time eswitch mode defaults Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 1/7] devlink: Skip health recover notifications before register Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 2/7] netdevsim: Register devlink after device init Mark Bloch
2026-06-10 23:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-11  6:02     ` Mark Bloch [this message]
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 3/7] net/mlx5: Clear FW reset-in-progress bit before reload Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 4/7] net/mlx5: Register devlink after device init Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 5/7] octeontx2-af: Register devlink after SR-IOV init Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 6/7] octeontx2-pf: Register devlink after SR-IOV state init Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next V3 7/7] devlink: Add eswitch mode boot defaults Mark Bloch
2026-06-05 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next V3 0/7] devlink: Add boot-time eswitch mode defaults Borislav Petkov

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