From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on archive.lwn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by archive.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B49D7D57F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728334AbeISNL6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:11:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:49198 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726527AbeISNL6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:11:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C47D3084219; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.36.117.41] (ovpn-117-41.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.117.41]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E972B592; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/6] mm: online/offline_pages called w.o. mem_hotplug_lock To: Balbir Singh Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, devel@linuxdriverproject.org, Andrew Morton , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Boris Ostrovsky , Dan Williams , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Haiyang Zhang , Heiko Carstens , John Allen , Jonathan Corbet , Joonsoo Kim , Juergen Gross , Kate Stewart , "K. 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Wysocki" , Rashmica Gupta , Stephen Hemminger , Thomas Gleixner , Vlastimil Babka , YASUAKI ISHIMATSU References: <20180918114822.21926-1-david@redhat.com> <20180919012207.GD8537@350D> From: David Hildenbrand Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=david@redhat.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzSREYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCA8ZGF2aWRAcmVkaGF0LmNvbT7CwX4EEwECACgFAljj9eoCGwMFCQlmAYAGCwkI BwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEE3eEPcA/4Na5IIP/3T/FIQMxIfNzZshIq687qgG 8UbspuE/YSUDdv7r5szYTK6KPTlqN8NAcSfheywbuYD9A4ZeSBWD3/NAVUdrCaRP2IvFyELj xoMvfJccbq45BxzgEspg/bVahNbyuBpLBVjVWwRtFCUEXkyazksSv8pdTMAs9IucChvFmmq3 jJ2vlaz9lYt/lxN246fIVceckPMiUveimngvXZw21VOAhfQ+/sofXF8JCFv2mFcBDoa7eYob s0FLpmqFaeNRHAlzMWgSsP80qx5nWWEvRLdKWi533N2vC/EyunN3HcBwVrXH4hxRBMco3jvM m8VKLKao9wKj82qSivUnkPIwsAGNPdFoPbgghCQiBjBe6A75Z2xHFrzo7t1jg7nQfIyNC7ez MZBJ59sqA9EDMEJPlLNIeJmqslXPjmMFnE7Mby/+335WJYDulsRybN+W5rLT5aMvhC6x6POK z55fMNKrMASCzBJum2Fwjf/VnuGRYkhKCqqZ8gJ3OvmR50tInDV2jZ1DQgc3i550T5JDpToh dPBxZocIhzg+MBSRDXcJmHOx/7nQm3iQ6iLuwmXsRC6f5FbFefk9EjuTKcLMvBsEx+2DEx0E UnmJ4hVg7u1PQ+2Oy+Lh/opK/BDiqlQ8Pz2jiXv5xkECvr/3Sv59hlOCZMOaiLTTjtOIU7Tq 7ut6OL64oAq+zsFNBFXLn5EBEADn1959INH2cwYJv0tsxf5MUCghCj/CA/lc/LMthqQ773ga uB9mN+F1rE9cyyXb6jyOGn+GUjMbnq1o121Vm0+neKHUCBtHyseBfDXHA6m4B3mUTWo13nid 0e4AM71r0DS8+KYh6zvweLX/LL5kQS9GQeT+QNroXcC1NzWbitts6TZ+IrPOwT1hfB4WNC+X 2n4AzDqp3+ILiVST2DT4VBc11Gz6jijpC/KI5Al8ZDhRwG47LUiuQmt3yqrmN63V9wzaPhC+ xbwIsNZlLUvuRnmBPkTJwwrFRZvwu5GPHNndBjVpAfaSTOfppyKBTccu2AXJXWAE1Xjh6GOC 8mlFjZwLxWFqdPHR1n2aPVgoiTLk34LR/bXO+e0GpzFXT7enwyvFFFyAS0Nk1q/7EChPcbRb hJqEBpRNZemxmg55zC3GLvgLKd5A09MOM2BrMea+l0FUR+PuTenh2YmnmLRTro6eZ/qYwWkC u8FFIw4pT0OUDMyLgi+GI1aMpVogTZJ70FgV0pUAlpmrzk/bLbRkF3TwgucpyPtcpmQtTkWS gDS50QG9DR/1As3LLLcNkwJBZzBG6PWbvcOyrwMQUF1nl4SSPV0LLH63+BrrHasfJzxKXzqg rW28CTAE2x8qi7e/6M/+XXhrsMYG+uaViM7n2je3qKe7ofum3s4vq7oFCPsOgwARAQABwsFl BBgBAgAPBQJVy5+RAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEE3eEPcA/4NagOsP/jPoIBb/iXVbM+fmSHOjEshl KMwEl/m5iLj3iHnHPVLBUWrXPdS7iQijJA/VLxjnFknhaS60hkUNWexDMxVVP/6lbOrs4bDZ NEWDMktAeqJaFtxackPszlcpRVkAs6Msn9tu8hlvB517pyUgvuD7ZS9gGOMmYwFQDyytpepo YApVV00P0u3AaE0Cj/o71STqGJKZxcVhPaZ+LR+UCBZOyKfEyq+ZN311VpOJZ1IvTExf+S/5 lqnciDtbO3I4Wq0ArLX1gs1q1XlXLaVaA3yVqeC8E7kOchDNinD3hJS4OX0e1gdsx/e6COvy qNg5aL5n0Kl4fcVqM0LdIhsubVs4eiNCa5XMSYpXmVi3HAuFyg9dN+x8thSwI836FoMASwOl C7tHsTjnSGufB+D7F7ZBT61BffNBBIm1KdMxcxqLUVXpBQHHlGkbwI+3Ye+nE6HmZH7IwLwV W+Ajl7oYF+jeKaH4DZFtgLYGLtZ1LDwKPjX7VAsa4Yx7S5+EBAaZGxK510MjIx6SGrZWBrrV TEvdV00F2MnQoeXKzD7O4WFbL55hhyGgfWTHwZ457iN9SgYi1JLPqWkZB0JRXIEtjd4JEQcx +8Umfre0Xt4713VxMygW0PnQt5aSQdMD58jHFxTk092mU+yIHj5LeYgvwSgZN4airXk5yRXl SE+xAvmumFBY Organization: Red Hat GmbH Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:35:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180919012207.GD8537@350D> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.40]); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Am 19.09.18 um 03:22 schrieb Balbir Singh: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 01:48:16PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> Reading through the code and studying how mem_hotplug_lock is to be used, >> I noticed that there are two places where we can end up calling >> device_online()/device_offline() - online_pages()/offline_pages() without >> the mem_hotplug_lock. And there are other places where we call >> device_online()/device_offline() without the device_hotplug_lock. >> >> While e.g. >> echo "online" > /sys/devices/system/memory/memory9/state >> is fine, e.g. >> echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/memory/memory9/online >> Will not take the mem_hotplug_lock. However the device_lock() and >> device_hotplug_lock. >> >> E.g. via memory_probe_store(), we can end up calling >> add_memory()->online_pages() without the device_hotplug_lock. So we can >> have concurrent callers in online_pages(). We e.g. touch in online_pages() >> basically unprotected zone->present_pages then. >> >> Looks like there is a longer history to that (see Patch #2 for details), >> and fixing it to work the way it was intended is not really possible. We >> would e.g. have to take the mem_hotplug_lock in device/base/core.c, which >> sounds wrong. >> >> Summary: We had a lock inversion on mem_hotplug_lock and device_lock(). >> More details can be found in patch 3 and patch 6. >> >> I propose the general rules (documentation added in patch 6): >> >> 1. add_memory/add_memory_resource() must only be called with >> device_hotplug_lock. >> 2. remove_memory() must only be called with device_hotplug_lock. This is >> already documented and holds for all callers. >> 3. device_online()/device_offline() must only be called with >> device_hotplug_lock. This is already documented and true for now in core >> code. Other callers (related to memory hotplug) have to be fixed up. >> 4. mem_hotplug_lock is taken inside of add_memory/remove_memory/ >> online_pages/offline_pages. >> >> To me, this looks way cleaner than what we have right now (and easier to >> verify). And looking at the documentation of remove_memory, using >> lock_device_hotplug also for add_memory() feels natural. >> > > That seems reasonable, but also implies that device_online() would hold > back add/remove memory, could you please also document what mode > read/write the locks need to be held? For example can the device_hotplug_lock > be held in read mode while add/remove memory via (mem_hotplug_lock) is held > in write mode? device_hotplug_lock is an ordinary mutex. So no option there. Only mem_hotplug_lock is a per CPU RW mutex. And as of now it only exists to not require get_online_mems()/put_online_mems() to take the device_hotplug_lock. Which is perfectly valid, because these users only care about memory (not any other devices) not suddenly vanish. And that RW lock makes things fast. Any modifications (online/offline/add/remove) require the mem_hotplug_lock in write. I can add some more details to documentation in patch #6. "... we should always hold the mem_hotplug_lock (via mem_hotplug_begin/mem_hotplug_done) in write mode to serialize memory hotplug" ..." "In addition, mem_hotplug_lock (in contrast to device_hotplug_lock) in read mode allows for a quite efficient get_online_mems/put_online_mems implementation, so code accessing memory can protect from that memory vanishing." Would that work for you? Thanks! > > Balbir Singh. > > -- Thanks, David / dhildenb