From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: "Mario Limonciello" <superm1@kernel.org>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
Perry Yuan <perry.yuan@amd.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
<x86@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"open list:AMD HETERO CORE HARDWARE FEEDBACK DRIVER"
<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 01/13] Documentation: x86: Add AMD Hardware Feedback Interface documentation
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 16:13:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f79ad154-2bbe-4d21-8cd2-6ae3e5be2ed7@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250515211950.3102922-2-superm1@kernel.org>
Hi,
On 5/15/25 2:19 PM, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> From: Perry Yuan <Perry.Yuan@amd.com>
>
> Introduce a new documentation file, `amd_hfi.rst`, which delves into the
> implementation details of the AMD Hardware Feedback Interface and its
> associated driver, `amd_hfi`. This documentation describes how the
> driver provides hint to the OS scheduling which depends on the capability
> of core performance and efficiency ranking data.
>
> This documentation describes
> * The design of the driver
> * How the driver provides hints to the OS scheduling
> * How the driver interfaces with the kernel for efficiency ranking data.
>
> Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Perry Yuan <Perry.Yuan@amd.com>
> Reviewed-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
> ---
> Documentation/arch/x86/amd-hfi.rst | 133 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Documentation/arch/x86/index.rst | 1 +
> 2 files changed, 134 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/arch/x86/amd-hfi.rst
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/amd-hfi.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/amd-hfi.rst
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000000..8c1799acb6fe6
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/amd-hfi.rst
> @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@
> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +
> +======================================================================
> +Hardware Feedback Interface For Hetero Core Scheduling On AMD Platform
> +======================================================================
> +
> +:Copyright: 2025 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
> +
> +:Author: Perry Yuan <perry.yuan@amd.com>
> +:Author: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
> +
> +Overview
> +--------
> +
> +AMD Heterogeneous Core implementations are comprised of more than one
> +architectural class and CPUs are comprised of cores of various efficiency and
> +power capabilities: performance-oriented *classic cores* and power-efficient
> +*dense cores*. As such, power management strategies must be designed to
> +accommodate the complexities introduced by incorporating different core types.
> +Heterogeneous systems can also extend to more than two architectural classes
> +as well. The purpose of the scheduling feedback mechanism is to provide
> +information to the operating system scheduler in real time such that the
> +scheduler can direct threads to the optimal core.
> +
> +The goal of AMD's heterogeneous architecture is to attain power benefit by
> +sending background thread to the dense cores while sending high priority
threads
> +threads to the classic cores. From a performance perspective, sending
> +background threads to dense cores can free up power headroom and allow the
> +classic cores to optimally service demanding threads. Furthermore, the area
> +optimized nature of the dense cores allows for an increasing number of
> +physical cores. This improved core density will have positive multithreaded
> +performance impact.
> +
> +AMD Heterogeneous Core Driver
> +-----------------------------
> +
> +The ``amd_hfi`` driver delivers the operating system a performance and energy
> +efficiency capability data for each CPU in the system. The scheduler can use
> +the ranking data from the HFI driver to make task placement decisions.
> +
> +Thread Classification and Ranking Table Interaction
> +----------------------------------------------------
> +
> +The thread classification is used to select into a ranking table that
> +describes an efficiency and performance ranking for each classification.
> +
> +Threads are classified during runtime into enumerated classes. The classes
> +represent thread performance/power characteristics that may benefit from
> +special scheduling behaviors. The below table depicts an example of thread
> +classification and a preference where a given thread should be scheduled
> +based on its thread class. The real time thread classification is consumed
> +by the operating system and is used to inform the scheduler of where the
> +thread should be placed.
> +
> +Thread Classification Example Table
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ++----------+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+---------+
> +| class ID | Classification | Preferred scheduling behavior | Preemption priority | Counter |
> ++----------+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+---------+
> +| 0 | Default | Performant | Highest | |
> ++----------+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+---------+
> +| 1 | Non-scalable | Efficient | Lowest | PMCx1A1 |
> ++----------+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+---------+
> +| 2 | I/O bound | Efficient | Lowest | PMCx044 |
> ++----------+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+---------+
> +
> +Thread classification is performed by the hardware each time that the thread is switched out.
> +Threads that don't meet any hardware specified criteria will be classified as "default".
I would say are classified
> +
> +AMD Hardware Feedback Interface
> +--------------------------------
> +
> +The Hardware Feedback Interface provides to the operating system information
> +about the performance and energy efficiency of each CPU in the system. Each
> +capability is given as a unit-less quantity in the range [0-255]. A higher
> +performance value indicates higher performance capability, and a higher
> +efficiency value indicates more efficiency. Energy efficiency and performance
> +are reported in separate capabilities in the shared memory based ranking table.
> +
> +These capabilities may change at runtime as a result of changes in the
> +operating conditions of the system or the action of external factors.
> +Power Management FW is responsible for detecting events that would require
s/FW/firmware/ s/would//
> +a reordering of the performance and efficiency ranking. Table updates would
s/would//
> +happen relatively infrequently and occur on the time scale of seconds or more.
> +
> +The following events trigger a table update:
> + * Thermal Stress Events
> + * Silent Compute
> + * Extreme Low Battery Scenarios
> +
> +The kernel or a userspace policy daemon can use these capabilities to modify
> +task placement decisions. For instance, if either the performance or energy
> +capabilities of a given logical processor becomes zero, it is an indication
> +that the hardware recommends to the operating system to not schedule any tasks
> +on that processor for performance or energy efficiency reasons, respectively.
> +
> +Implementation details for Linux
> +--------------------------------
> +
> +The implementation of threads scheduling consists of the following steps:
> +
> +1. A thread is spawned and scheduled to the ideal core using the default
> + heterogeneous scheduling policy.
> +2. The processor profiles thread execution and assigns an enumerated
> + classification ID.
> + This classification is communicated to the OS via logical processor
> + scope MSR.
> +3. During the thread context switch out the operating system consumes the
> + workload(WL) classification which resides in a logical processor scope MSR.
workload (WL)
> +4. The OS triggers the hardware to clear its history by writing to an MSR,
> + after consuming the WL classification and before switching in the new thread.
> +5. If due to the classification, ranking table, and processor availability,
> + the thread is not on its ideal processor, the OS will then consider
> + scheduling the thread on its ideal processor (if available).
> +
> +Ranking Table
> +-------------
> +The ranking table is a shared memory region that is used to communicate the
> +performance and energy efficiency capabilities of each CPU in the system.
> +
> +The ranking table design includes rankings for each APIC ID in the system and
> +rankings both for performance and efficiency for each workload classification.
> +
> +.. kernel-doc:: drivers/platform/x86/amd/hfi/hfi.c
> + :doc: amd_shmem_info
> +
> +Ranking Table update
> +---------------------------
> +The power management firmware issues an platform interrupt after updating the
> +ranking table and is ready for the operating system to consume it. CPUs receive
> +such interrupt and read new ranking table from shared memory which PCCT table
> +has provided, then ``amd_hfi`` driver parse the new table to provide new
parses
> +consume data for scheduling decisions.
--
~Randy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 21:19 [PATCH v10 00/13] Add support for AMD hardware feedback interface Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 01/13] Documentation: x86: Add AMD Hardware Feedback Interface documentation Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 23:13 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 02/13] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainer entry for AMD Hardware Feedback Driver Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 03/13] x86/msr-index: define AMD heterogeneous CPU related MSR Mario Limonciello
2025-05-16 8:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 04/13] platform/x86: hfi: Introduce AMD Hardware Feedback Interface Driver Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:22 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 05/13] platform/x86: hfi: parse CPU core ranking data from shared memory Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 06/13] platform/x86: hfi: init per-cpu scores for each class Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 07/13] platform/x86: hfi: add online and offline callback support Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 08/13] platform/x86: hfi: add power management callback Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 09/13] x86/process: Clear hardware feedback history for AMD processors Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 10/13] cpufreq/amd-pstate: Disable preferred cores on designs with workload classification Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 11/13] platform/x86/amd: hfi: Set ITMT priority from ranking data Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 12/13] platform/x86/amd: hfi: Add debugfs support Mario Limonciello
2025-05-15 21:19 ` [PATCH v10 13/13] x86/itmt: Add debugfs file to show core priorities Mario Limonciello
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