From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
"Young, Brent" <brent.young@intel.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>,
Doug Thompson <dougthompson@xmission.com>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
"bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Hardware Error Kernel Mini-Summit
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:09:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519070919.GA9618@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100519064619.GA30320@aftab>
* Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org> wrote:
> From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 09:14:09PM -0400
>
> > - Errors that occur frequently. That is broken
> > hardware of one time or another. I want to know
> > about that so I can schedule down time to replace my
> > memory before I get an uncorrected ECC error.
> > Errors of this kind are likely happening frequently
> > enough as to impact performance.
>
> This is exactly the reason why we need a better error
> logging and reporting than a log.
>
> [ ... lots of specific details snipped ... ]
Basically the idea behind the generic structured logging
framework (the perf events kernel subsystem) is to have
both ASCII output (where desired: critical errors), but to
also have well-specified event format parsable to
user-space tools.
Plus there's the need for fast, lightweight, flexible
event passing mechanism - which is given by the perf
events transport which enables arbitrary size in-memory
ring-buffers, poll() and epoll support, etc.
perf events supports all these different usecases and
comes with a (constantly growing) set of events already
defined upstream. We've got more than a dozen different
upstream subsystems that have defined events and we have
over a hundred individual events. There's a rapidly
growing tool space that makes case by case use of these
event sources to measure/observe various aspects of the
system.
Regarding dmesg, there's a WIP patch on lkml that
integrates printks into this framework as well - makes
each printk also available as a special string event.
That way a tool can have both programmatic access to
printk output (without having to interact with the syslog
buffer itself) - together with all the other structured
log sources, while humans can also see what is happening.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-19 7:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-17 18:23 Hardware Error Kernel Mini-Summit Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-17 22:41 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-18 16:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-18 18:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-18 6:52 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2010-05-18 16:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-18 17:42 ` Joe Perches
2010-05-18 17:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-18 18:45 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-18 18:57 ` Joe Perches
2010-05-18 18:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 19:08 ` Luck, Tony
2010-05-18 19:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-18 19:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 22:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-18 22:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 1:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-19 6:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-19 7:09 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-05-19 11:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-20 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-14 10:03 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-14 11:49 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-14 19:47 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-14 20:21 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-14 21:02 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-14 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-14 20:21 ` Luck, Tony
2010-06-14 20:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-14 21:34 ` Tony Luck
2010-06-14 23:46 ` Doug Thompson
2010-06-15 6:56 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-15 8:06 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-15 10:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-06-15 11:41 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-15 12:21 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-15 18:15 ` Luck, Tony
2010-06-15 18:38 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-15 19:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-15 19:35 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-15 20:48 ` Nils Carlson
2010-06-16 9:40 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-15 22:33 ` Tony Luck
2010-06-15 6:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 9:03 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-24 16:21 ` Russ Anderson
2010-05-24 18:26 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 17:30 ` Tony Luck
2010-05-24 15:55 ` Russ Anderson
2010-05-24 17:35 ` Tony Luck
2010-05-24 18:31 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-18 22:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 19:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 20:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 21:37 ` Tony Luck
2010-05-18 22:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-24 17:13 ` Russ Anderson
2010-05-19 6:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 13:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-18 16:52 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-05-18 17:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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