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From: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: rostedt@goodmis.org, lukas@wunner.de, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, bp@alien8.de, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	naveen@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] PCI: hotplug: Add a generic RAS tracepoint for hotplug event
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:04:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <309dd6e6-53ec-4f82-94ca-242941bd7136@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250107231943.GA189869@bhelgaas>



在 2025/1/8 07:19, Bjorn Helgaas 写道:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 07:31:08PM +0800, Shuai Xue wrote:
>> Hotplug events are critical indicators for analyzing hardware health,
>> particularly in AI supercomputers where surprise link downs can
>> significantly impact system performance and reliability. The failure
>> characterization analysis illustrates the significance of failures
>> caused by the Infiniband link errors. Meta observes that 2% in a machine
>> learning cluster and 6% in a vision application cluster of Infiniband
>> failures co-occur with GPU failures, such as falling off the bus, which
>> may indicate a correlation with PCIe.[1]
>>
>> To this end, define a new TRACING_SYSTEM named pci, add a generic RAS
>> tracepoint for hotplug event to help healthy check, and generate
>> tracepoints for pcie hotplug event. To monitor these tracepoints in
>> userspace, e.g. with rasdaemon, put `enum pci_hotplug_event` in uapi
>> header.
>>
>> The output like below:
>> $ echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/pci/pci_hp_event/enable
>> $ cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe
>>             <...>-206     [001] .....    40.373870: pci_hp_event: 0000:00:02.0 slot:10, event:Link Down
>>
>>             <...>-206     [001] .....    40.374871: pci_hp_event: 0000:00:02.0 slot:10, event:Card not present
>>
>> [1]https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.21680
> 
> Doesn't apply on pci/main (v6.13-rc1); can you rebase it?

Sure. Do you mean Git repository at:

   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pci/pci.git
   branch main

> 
> s/pcie/PCIe/ in English text.

Will fix it.

> 
> Probably more detail than necessary about AI supercomputers,
> Infiniband, vision applications, etc.  This is a very generic issue.

Agreed. It is generic. Are you asking for the first background paragraph to be
deleted?

> 
> "Falling off the bus" doesn't really mean anything to me.  I suppose
> it's another way to describe a "link down" event that leads to UR
> errors when trying to access the device?

Sorry for the confusion. "Falling off the bus" is a common error for NVIDIA GPU
observed in production. The GPU driver will log a such message when GPU is not
accessible. And we also see many hotplug event like bellow:

[12945750.691652] pcieport 0000:42:02.0: pciehp: Slot(65): Link Down
[12945750.691655] pcieport 0000:42:02.0: pciehp: Slot(65): Card not present

> https://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/xid-errors/index.html#xid-79-gpu-has-fallen-off-the-bus

> 
> I'm guessing that monitoring these via rasdaemon requires more than
> just adding "enum pci_hotplug_event"?  Or does rasdaemon read
> include/uapi/linux/pci.h and automagically incorporate new events?
> Maybe there's at least a rebuild involved?

Yes, a rebuild is needed. Rasdaemon has a basic infrastructure to manually
register a tracepoint event handler. For example, for this new event, we can
register to handle pci_hp_event:

     rc = add_event_handler(ras, pevent, page_size, "pci", "pci_hp_event",
			   ras_pci_hp_event_handler, NULL, PCI_HOTPLUG_EVENT);

> 
> Anything in the arxiv link that is specifically relevant to this patch
> needs to be in the commit log itself.  But I think there's already
> enough information here to motivate this change, and whatever is in
> the arxiv link may be of general interest, but is probably not
> required to justify, understand, or debug this useful functionality.

I see, will remove the arxiv link.

> 
> Bjorn

Thank you for quick reply.

Best Regards,
Shuai

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-23 11:31 [PATCH v4] PCI: hotplug: Add a generic RAS tracepoint for hotplug event Shuai Xue
2025-01-07 11:30 ` Shuai Xue
2025-01-07 12:53   ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-08  1:47     ` Shuai Xue
2025-01-07 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-08  9:04   ` Shuai Xue [this message]
2025-01-08 17:59     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-09  1:40       ` Shuai Xue

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