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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Ani Sinha" <anisinha@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@mailo.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, "Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/16] qapi/docs: add "Intro" section parsing
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 07:54:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87se6tfwpn.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFn=p-YJg_KhMf3vHZYP-4F1FVsA-MOE=ydRAmUv5srdVteuwQ@mail.gmail.com> (John Snow's message of "Tue, 9 Jun 2026 14:57:51 -0400")

John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2026 at 9:39 AM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > Add parsing for explicit Intro section syntax.
>> >
>> > A side effect of this patch is that we will (currently) always create
>> > an empty Intro section, similar to how we used to have an empty Plain
>> > section. The tests are adjusted accordingly, rendered document output
>> > does not change at all.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
>> > ---
>> >  docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst   | 16 +++++++---------
>> >  scripts/qapi/parser.py         |  4 ++--
>> >  tests/qapi-schema/doc-good.out | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>> >  3 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst
>> > index 3a632b4a648..b1cc5b5f0db 100644
>> > --- a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst
>> > +++ b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst
>> > @@ -984,11 +984,11 @@ definition it documents.
>> >  When documentation is required (see pragma_ 'doc-required'), every
>> >  definition must have documentation.
>> >
>> > -Definition documentation starts with a line naming the definition,
>> > -followed by an optional overview, a description of each argument (for
>> > -commands and events), member (for structs and unions), branch (for
>> > -alternates), or value (for enums), a description of each feature (if
>> > -any), and finally optional tagged sections.
>> > +Definition documentation starts with a description naming the
>> > +definition with an optional indented overview, a description of each
>> > +argument (for commands and events), member (for structs and unions),
>> > +branch (for alternates), or value (for enums), a description of each
>> > +feature (if any), and finally optional tagged sections.
>> >
>> >  Descriptions start with '\@name:'.  The description text must be
>> >  indented like this::
>>
>> This works if we convert the entire schema in the same series.  I guess
>> that's the plan.  Is it?
>
> I still plan to do it piecemeal: I will probably send everything out
> in a big series, but you will be able to cherry-pick and stage those
> patches individually as you feel they are ready. This way, modules
> that need further revisions don't hold up the entire series and v2,
> v3, etc won't email bomb all of creation just to fix an indent in a
> single module somewhere.

We'll see.

The important bit is separating "split the initial part into intro (to
be discarded by the inliner) and non-intro (to be kept)" from purely
mechanical "make the entire initial part syntactically intro".

The transition to intro syntax will likely be bothersome for
contributors, and I feel kind of bad about it.  But I also feel we do
need to make intro syntactically obvious.  We could try to ease the pain
by silently accepting old-style patches (not using intro syntax) for a
while, then have another bulk conversion.

> I think this documentation still covers it just fine: "an optional
> indented overview". Technically the things we haven't converted just
> omit that indented overview. Those overviews just remain as
> "plaintext".

You're right.  "Optional" carries even more weight here than I thought.

> It's not perfect documentation, but the expected window where we have
> two competing systems should be quite small in the grand scheme, so I
> don't think it's worth writing docs to cover the technicalities of the
> transition.

Okay.

[...]


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-11  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-03  3:21 [PATCH v3 00/16] qapi: add formal "intro" section John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] python: temporarily restrict max mypy version John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] tests/qapi: generate output in source order John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] qapi/docs: remove unused QAPIDoc subsection members John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] qapi/docs: add has_features property John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] qapi/docs: make remaining subsection members "private" John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] qapi/docs: fix comment phrasing John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] qapi/docs: add "Intro" section John Snow
2026-06-09 10:58   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-06-09 18:06     ` John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] qapi/parser: move _insert_near_kind() method John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] qapi/docs: adjust stub member insertion algorithm John Snow
2026-06-03 11:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-06-04 19:07     ` John Snow
2026-06-09 13:32       ` Markus Armbruster
2026-06-09 18:44         ` John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] qapi/docs: remove implicit Plain section John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] qapi/docs: add rendering for INTRO sections John Snow
2026-06-09 13:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-06-09 18:51     ` John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] qapi/docs: add "Intro" section parsing John Snow
2026-06-09 13:39   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-06-09 18:57     ` John Snow
2026-06-11  5:54       ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] qapi: convert intro sections for accelerator.json John Snow
2026-06-03  3:21 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] qapi: convert intro sections for acpi-hest.json John Snow
2026-06-03  3:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] qapi: convert intro sections for acpi.json John Snow
2026-06-03  3:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] qapi: convert intro sections for audio.json John Snow

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