From: joeyli <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Russ Anderson <rja-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 11:28:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369970925.17397.80.camel@linux-s257.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130531021749.GA24287-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
於 四,2013-05-30 於 21:17 -0500,Russ Anderson 提到:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:30:43AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 May 2013, Russ Anderson wrote:
> >
> > > > > That's a great idea. This patch moves the QueryVariableInfo()
> > > > > call from bootime to runtime, in efi_late_init(). The attached
> > > > > patch is consistent with the UEFI spec and avoids the problem.
> > > >
> > > > No, that defeats the entire point of the original patch.
> > >
> > > How so? It is still calling QueryVariableInfo()
> > > before the data is used.
> >
> > You lose information provided by QueryVariableInfo() about boot-only
> > variables once the transition boot -> runtime has happened.
>
> Is that information really more important than the ability
> to boot?
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but linux was able to boot without
> the boottime QueryVariableInfo() call up until 3.9-rc7,
> and it still does on systems that do not use EFI stubs (ie
> grub and elilo). It is only when linux uses EFI stubs (ie
> grub2) that linux makes the boottime QueryVariableInfo()
> call. So why is that call, or whatever is dependent on it,
> more important than booting?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
It related to BIOS's garbage collection behavior of UEFI variable
storage.
The used space of non volatile boottime variables is useful to us for
calculate the active_size, please reference 31ff2f2 patch:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/15/476
An earlier 68d9298 patch to avoid some machines bricked when more than
50% of the system flash is in use, because the garbage collection will
not trigger on those machines.
We need find out the size of system flash space indeed usage for avoid
this problem. So, cc5a080c5 patch call QueryVariableInfo() to grab the
usage information in boot time.
Calling QueryVariableInfo() at boot time should not causes side effect
until your issue show up. Before this issue happen, avoid bricking some
machines is also important.
Thanks a lot!
Joey Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-31 3:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-22 16:27 [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130522162747.GA20816-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-23 11:58 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20130523115801.GJ14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-23 20:32 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130523203234.GD20913-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 7:43 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20130524074331.GL14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 11:09 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20130524110911.GA32220-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 11:40 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 16:11 ` Robin Holt
[not found] ` <20130524161111.GE3672-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 17:02 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130524170214.GA30179-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 21:05 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <20130524210534.GA15466-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-27 4:27 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1369628832.19026.22.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-27 4:32 ` joeyli
2013-05-28 2:43 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:05 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130524200539.GA3322-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 20:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-24 20:49 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130524204937.GB3322-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-28 10:50 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 10:53 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-29 21:01 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130529210115.GC28027-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:22 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1305300018180.1111-1ReQVI26iDCaZKY3DrU6dA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:46 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130529224645.GA16582-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:53 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305300048520.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 2:16 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1369880172.17397.11.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:17 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130530221737.GA11105-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 22:28 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130530222836.GB11105-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:30 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305310029560.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 2:17 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130531021749.GA24287-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 3:28 ` joeyli [this message]
2013-05-30 22:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 2:54 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 10:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-30 22:25 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305310023020.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20130531101250.GD30394-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:06 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305311259520.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:40 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20130531114037.GC7131-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:54 ` Josh Boyer
2013-05-31 12:30 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20130531123015.GC17843-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20130531124356.GA8212-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:34 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20130531143425.GA5850-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:42 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1370011357.1913.15.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 14:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 15:43 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130531154348.GA17145-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 16:28 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20130531162815.GA8082-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 17:35 ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 22:57 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130531225730.GB14752-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 23:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-06-01 0:03 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20130601000311.GA15126-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01 4:20 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130601042058.GB15199-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01 4:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-01 11:01 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1306011956350.9068-OR3hLWCBCApQetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01 14:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 2:38 ` joeyli
2013-05-23 22:23 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130523222321.GB31880-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 7:45 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20130524074544.GM14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 20:16 ` Russ Anderson
[not found] ` <20130529201616.GB28027-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
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