From: joeyli <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Yasuaki Ishimatsu
<isimatu.yasuaki-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Madper Xie <cxie-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Matt Fleming
<matt-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>,
linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, efi: change name of efi_no_storage_paranoia parameter to efi_storage_paranoia
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:53:43 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1385027623.6516.4090.camel@linux-s257.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <528DCED7.5070806-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
於 四,2013-11-21 於 18:13 +0900,Yasuaki Ishimatsu 提到:
> (2013/11/20 17:08), joeyli wrote:
> > 於 三,2013-11-20 於 15:26 +0900,Yasuaki Ishimatsu 提到:
> >> (2013/11/19 12:16), Madper Xie wrote:
> >>>
> >>> isimatu.yasuaki-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Matt,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for late the reply.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (2013/11/11 19:54), Matt Fleming wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov, at 05:52:59PM, Yasuaki Ishimatsu wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Matt,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I uses FUJITSU's x86 box.
> >>>>>> This does not become bricked even if I use all efi variable storage.
> >>>>>> Thus I want a way to not need to specify efi_no_storage_paranoia
> >>>>>> parameter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The efi_no_storage_paranoia parameter was introduced because some
> >>>>> machines do not initiate garbage collection of the NVRAM until you
> >>>>> allocate all space - basically it's a switch to turn off the "save 5KB
> >>>>> of stoarge at all times" workaround that is needed to avoid bricking
> >>>>> some machines.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The intention of the switch is not to allow you to fill your NVRAM just
> >>>>> because you can. If that is something you want to do then I think it's
> >>>>> fair to require you to explicitly turn on efi_no_storage_paranoia. But
> >>>>> I'm assuming here that you are doing something like writing lots and
> >>>>> lots of pstore entries and just want to write as many as your variable
> >>>>> storage will allow? Or are you doing something more fundamental like
> >>>>> creating BootXXXX entries?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What are you doing to run into the 5KB reserve? How much NVRAM does your
> >>>>> machine come with?
> >>>>
> >>>> I just add boot entry to NVRAM by efibootmgr command. But when Linux boots up,
> >>>> the remaining NVRAM is less than 5Kbyte. So I cannnot add new entry.
> >>>>
> >>> Howdy Yasuaki,
> >>> If the remaining NVRAM is less than 5Kb, your writing will trigger a
> >>> NVRAM storage reclamation. However you still failed creating entry. So
> >>> I'm just curious what itmes occupy lots of nvram storage space.
> >>
> >> Even if we got EFI_OUT_OF_RESOURCES while running Linux, gc does not run.
> >> Trigger of gc is when EFI_OUT_OF_RESOURCES occurs on pre OS environment with
> >> UEFI. So on my system, if EFI_OUT_OF_RESOURCES occurs by the 5Kbyte threshold,
> >> we cannot use nvram storage until EFI_OUT_OF_RESOURCES occurs on pre OS
> >> environment with UEFI.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Yasuaki Ishimatsu
> >
> > Can we try to trigger gc by EFI_OUT_OF_RESOURCE in EFI stub kernel or
> > EFI boot loader to recover NVRAM space? Does work with the BIOS on this
> > machine?
>
> Yes. I can trigger gc by EFI_OUT_OF_RESOUCE in EFI shell on my machine.
>
> Thanks,
> Yasuaki Ishimatu
>
OK, then maybe can try to trigger gc in EFI stub before
ExitBootService().
Another problem is what's the reasonable threshold. The threshold should
bigger then 5Kbyte, then we write a dummy BootTime NV variable to
trigger gc.
Thanks
Joey Lee
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-08 7:33 [PATCH] x86, efi: change name of efi_no_storage_paranoia parameter to efi_storage_paranoia Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <527C93B5.7010407-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 8:05 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <527C9B5C.6040509-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 8:46 ` Madper Xie
2013-11-08 9:34 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-11-08 9:37 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <527CB0F4.8080606-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 10:25 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-11-08 10:29 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <527CBD01.1000908-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 10:32 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <527CBDD3.2020609-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 14:34 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20131108143421.GB22636-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 8:52 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <52809AEB.9080100-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 9:47 ` Madper Xie
2013-11-11 10:54 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20131111105424.GD22636-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 3:03 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <528AD50D.6060503-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 3:16 ` Madper Xie
[not found] ` <87siutqdwv.fsf-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 6:26 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <528C562B.3070008-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 8:08 ` joeyli
2013-11-21 9:13 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
[not found] ` <528DCED7.5070806-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 9:53 ` joeyli [this message]
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2013-11-21 10:27 ` joeyli
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