From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Kweh, Hock Leong" <hock.leong.kweh@intel.com>,
Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
"Ong, Boon Leong" <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
Sam Protsenko <semen.protsenko@linaro.org>,
Roy Franz <roy.franz@linaro.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] efi: an sysfs interface for user to update efi firmware
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:18:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1429715913.2195.22.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150422132734.GB12062@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2015-04-22 at 09:27 -0400, Peter Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 06:58:58PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:21 PM, James Bottomley
> > <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > > Andy, just on the misc device idea, what about triggering the capsule
> > > update from close()? In theory close returns an error code (not sure if
> > > most tools actually check this, though). That means we can do the write
> > > in chunks but pass it in atomically on the close and cat will work
> > > (provided it checks the return code of close).
> >
> > I thought about this but IIRC cat doesn't check the return value from close.
>
> I checked this for the use case we'd talked about before - gnu cat
> /does/ check the error code, but it's easy to miss how, because
> coreutils code has some good ole' gnu-code complexity. It'll print the
> strerror() representation, but it always exits with 1 as the error
> code.
>
> Specifically the close on the output is handled by this:
> ---------------
> initialize_main (&argc, &argv);
> set_program_name (argv[0]);
> setlocale (LC_ALL, "");
> bindtextdomain (PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
> textdomain (PACKAGE);
>
> /* Arrange to close stdout if we exit via the
> case_GETOPT_HELP_CHAR or case_GETOPT_VERSION_CHAR code.
> Normally STDOUT_FILENO is used rather than stdout, so
> close_stdout does nothing. */
> atexit (close_stdout);
>
> /* Parse command line options. */
>
> while ((c = getopt_long (argc, argv, "benstuvAET", long_options, NULL))
> ---------------
>
> Which in turn does:
> ---------------
> void
> close_stdout (void)
> {
> if (close_stream (stdout) != 0
> && !(ignore_EPIPE && errno == EPIPE))
> {
> char const *write_error = _("write error");
> if (file_name)
> error (0, errno, "%s: %s", quotearg_colon (file_name),
> write_error);
> else
> error (0, errno, "%s", write_error);
>
> _exit (exit_failure);
> }
>
> if (close_stream (stderr) != 0)
> _exit (exit_failure);
> }
> ---------------
>
> exit_failure is a global from libcoreutils.a which cat never changes
> from the default, so it's always 1.
>
> (And of course error() is coreutils' own implementation rather than
> glibc's because hey maybe you're not using glibc, but still, it's
> there.)
>
> So it's /annoying/ to propagate the error from there programatically,
> but it can work.
Yes, I think we've all agreed we can do it ... it's now a question of
whether we can stomach the ick factor of actually initiating a
transaction in close ... I'm still feeling queasy.
There are quite a few of these 'transactional blob' problems where we'd
like to use a file/device approach because the data is just passed to
something but have problems because the something wants all or nothing
rather than chunks. I think all of us who work at the coal face on this
are not enthused by an ioctl solution because of the need for
non-standard tools to effect it.
The alternative might be a two file approach (either in sysfs or a mini
custom fs), one for load up data and the other for initiate transaction
with the data errors (like overflow) being returned on the load up file
and the transaction errors being returned on the write that initiates
the transaction.
My architectural sense is that transaction on close, provided we can
make it a more universally accepted idea, has a lot of potential because
it's more intuitive than the two file approach.
James
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2015-04-14 9:44 [PATCH v4 0/2] Enable capsule loader interface for efi firmware updating Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <1429004697-28320-1-git-send-email-hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] firmware_loader: introduce new API - request_firmware_direct_full_path() Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-04-14 14:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 15:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrW_aXJ1iiXCa6aTE3r3J3EF_Njn5bb9=At_3ajCzPFSPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 16:18 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20150414161833.GE14069-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 10:14 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20150415101455.GB4804-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 10:18 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20150415101805.GC2282-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 11:09 ` Matt Fleming
2015-04-15 13:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 15:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <1429004697-28320-2-git-send-email-hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 12:48 ` Matt Fleming
2015-04-14 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] efi: an sysfs interface for user to update efi firmware Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <1429004697-28320-3-git-send-email-hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 14:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150414140914.GE5989-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 15:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWeW8Gp9QFGCVhPmNo_Z+xsCJN7LYMPD6XNc92_dKMz3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 13:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150415132000.GD21491-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 15:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWUTjTLmwPZAwXrj06SwYaSX_7+XSTsVun2+HYC4wsqZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 0:19 ` Roy Franz
[not found] ` <CAFECyb-bthi74VwkF8fpZg8ZpoyORmE5X+8dbRGG1uTP8RUm_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 13:50 ` Greg KH
2015-04-15 11:32 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8D2AEA-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 13:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-16 9:42 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8D2E74-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 13:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-17 14:36 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20150417143640.GB3671-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20 3:28 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-04-20 14:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150420144323.GA7261-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21 3:23 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2CC11869-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21 7:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150421075620.GA11000-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 1:21 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1429665679.2207.44.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 1:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 2:20 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1429669228.2207.46.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 3:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVsmQxoJ6WxVnW03Q9Hq8oH=zuv662S6TJxFwb26d=erQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 4:51 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1429678269.18798.9.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 16:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrU5u5nUJB4i0KRPZGvXgohW5ojxxOOv-_pR2OLmypvXyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 17:34 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1429724049.2195.44.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 17:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX9GZmWnfkm-CwKW-2mPvRbNcRaY6tUY=8e0THsPBKMcA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 13:27 ` Peter Jones
2015-04-22 15:18 ` James Bottomley [this message]
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2015-04-22 15:24 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-23 8:30 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-04-23 14:09 ` James Bottomley
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2015-04-24 2:14 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2CC12798-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 15:16 ` James Bottomley
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2015-04-27 21:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-04-27 22:35 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1430174136.2314.49.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-27 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXeh+y1XZrdDyhEmy+GK6z7-swZNPYGZybnqzppWAE+Wg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-27 22:51 ` James Bottomley
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2015-04-29 11:23 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-04-29 18:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXBFBqwZ=A+zoC5Lj0Zr2_2hEkSBX0hrLZJRjyDWqjucA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 21:37 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-30 9:17 ` Kweh, Hock Leong
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2CC142E1-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-30 17:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2CC13F37-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 21:35 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-29 21:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 21:39 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-29 21:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-20 17:59 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <20150415131906.GC21491-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 15:35 ` James Bottomley
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2015-04-22 15:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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2015-04-22 16:11 ` James Bottomley
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2015-04-23 9:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 16:14 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1429805658.6624.2.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-23 20:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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