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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:57:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1442224673.3549.131.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9ER1cKvPHobq-wo7ggPesJj4OQ7=aTr24GVpubHvVqjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 11:43 +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:

> Xen will not boot the kernel via the stub, but directly. It needs to
> supply a EFI like environment so that the kernel can boot via ACPI.
> There is no reason whatsoever to mock up boot services or other pieces
> of UEFI functionality that are not needed.

I'm correct that on native the EFI stub calls ExitBootServices, right?

So the flow for native is:

EFI -> Linux EFI Stub -> Exit Boot Services -> Non-EFI Linux head.S entrypoint

For Xen it is more like:

Xen domain builder -------  ...    ... ------> Non-EFI Linux head.S entrypoint

>  The core kernel does not call any boot services

And it cannot because ExitBootServices has already been called.

I think given all that there should no reason at all for Xen to be
providing boot services.

>  or SetVirtualAddressMap/ConvertPointer, and

These two are RTS, so in principal it could.

(I'm not sure about ConvertPointer, is it useful for OS kernels, or just
for "UEFI components" mentioned at http://wiki.phoenix.com/wiki/index.php/E
FI_RUNTIME_SERVICES#ConvertPointer.28.29 ?)

> there is already paravirtualized plumbing in place for the remaining
> runtime services.
> 
> Hence my claim earlier that we should cope with the runtime services
> pointer being NULL, since that is really the only thing standing in
> the way from the kernel side. If you feel that violates the spec in
> some way, we could at least conditionalise it on EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES
> having been set already, this gives the Xen code a chance of
> overriding them.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-14  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10  8:41 [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao
     [not found] ` <1441874516-11364-1-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10  9:52   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 10:19     ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101116580.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:24         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:37           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 12:15             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:58               ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:08                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F19D0202000078000A1B54-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 13:30                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:52               ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101429480.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 14:13                   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:49                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:10                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:23                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 12:46                         ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                           ` <20150911124643.GB4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 13:14                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:30                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  8:42                                   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:09                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:31                                       ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]                                         ` <55F693F5.8030203-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14  9:36                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                             ` <CAKv+Gu-2kyd3Gf3ceSa1jdgCjqJ8zBCesa4xehLiZ+VzergS3Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 10:39                                               ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                                 ` <55F6C01502000078000A2823-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 11:16                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                                     ` <CAKv+Gu_k4-BqW7CQwB82-GfeXXNKk0bCjr=ZNFy1iDBNzKNWSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 11:34                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11 16:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-12 11:36                               ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:25                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:43                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKv+Gu9ER1cKvPHobq-wo7ggPesJj4OQ7=aTr24GVpubHvVqjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14  9:57                                       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <1442224673.3549.131.camel-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 10:02                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                             ` <CAKv+Gu_Gh649EwdtodLY9Q28JhqYg8o6RShXXH1ZbxsfYRfi2Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 10:25                                               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 12:28                                       ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                                         ` <20150914122858.GI4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 13:09                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                             ` <CAKv+Gu_z2X=9-qgoKTS7dKLqtSUvysyu9LzZryJqcSR4X8Ss6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 13:57                                               ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:47                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14 12:19                                   ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101655020.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 11:00                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:55             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 14:53               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F1B89802000078000A1C9B-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 16:36                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
     [not found]   ` <20150910123251.7e0810d1-I/y7IllHY3//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:48     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05       ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]         ` <55F1721D.1010801-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 12:53           ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao

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