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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Lingzhu Xiang <lxiang-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Matt Fleming
	<matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben-/+tVBieCtBitmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Seth Forshee
	<seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: efi: be more paranoid about available space when creating variables
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 04:35:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130326043542.GA6841@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5151248F.2010303-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:31:11PM +0800, Lingzhu Xiang wrote:
> On 03/26/2013 11:56 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >     Combined with commit 68d9298 this can cause problems. Some implementations
> >     don't garbage collect until the remaining space is smaller than the maximum
> >     variable size, and as a result check_var_size() will always fail once more
> >     than 50% of the variable store has been used even if most of that space is
> >     marked as available for garbage collection. The user is unable to create
> >     new variables, and deleting variables doesn't increase the remaining space.
> 
> Do you mean they don't garbage collect across reboots?

Only if the remaining space has fallen below a threshold.

> >     The problem that 68d9298 was attempting to avoid was one where certain
> >     platforms fail if the actively used space is greater than 50% of the
> >     available storage space. We should be able to calculate that by simply
> >     summing the size of each available variable and subtracting that from
> >     the total storage space. With luck this will fix the problem described in
> 
> What about the size of variable name, paddings, headers (especially
> authenticated ones) and other internal stuff?

Ah, true, it should at least include the name. As for padding, headers 
etc - these are great questions and ideally we'd get some feedback from 
(say) Samsung as to how much extra data is used in the variables.

> >     https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55471 without permitting
> >     damage to occur to the machines 68d9298 was attempting to fix.
> 
> This bug is reporting "query_variable_info sets max_size as zero".
> If that's true, this patch doesn't seem to account for that case.

Oh huh. You're right, I missed that. In which case we should remove that 
chunk - presumably we'll get an error on write then anyway. It does 
appear to have fixed Oleg's problem in the same bug.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-26  4:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2013-03-23 20:24     ` efi: be more paranoid about available space when creating variables Fleming, Matt
2013-03-23 20:32       ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]         ` <1364070731.2553.47.camel-tCUS0Eywp2Pehftex57rkxo58HMYffqeLoYNBG0abjxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-23 22:50           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <514E31B0.4030305-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26  3:56               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-26  4:31                 ` Lingzhu Xiang
     [not found]                   ` <5151248F.2010303-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26  4:34                     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-26  4:35                     ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20130326035600.GA6209-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26  7:40                   ` Lingzhu Xiang
2013-04-01 15:13                     ` [PATCH 1/2] efi: Determine how much space is used by boot services-only variables Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                       ` <1364829240-26475-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 15:14                         ` [PATCH 2/2] efi: Distinguish between "remaining space" and actually used space Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <1364829240-26475-2-git-send-email-matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 15:50                             ` Ben Hutchings
2013-04-03 13:11                             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                               ` <515C2A86.6070606-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 13:48                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-03 17:12                                   ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                     ` <515C62E6.1070004-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 17:20                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-01 15:42                         ` [PATCH 1/2] efi: Determine how much space is used by boot services-only variables Ben Hutchings
2013-04-03 13:09                         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                           ` <515C29EE.8050008-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 13:42                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-26 10:37                   ` efi: be more paranoid about available space when creating variables Matt Fleming
2013-03-26 15:43                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                       ` <20130326154359.GA20530-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-27  9:09                         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                           ` <5152B75B.5080305-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  6:31                             ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-26 23:33                   ` Seiji Aguchi
     [not found]                     ` <A5ED84D3BB3A384992CBB9C77DEDA4D41AF79528-ohthHghroY0jroPwUH3sq+6wyyQG6/Uh@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-27  9:10                       ` Matt Fleming

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