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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Russ Anderson <rja-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>,
	joeyli <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>,
	matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 15:48:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130531144826.GB5850@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370011357.1913.15.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 07:42:37AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 15:34 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > I agree that a revert is probably the right thing to do here, but the 
> > original patch was there to permit a more accurate calculation of the 
> > amount of nvram in use, not to provide additional debug information. 
> > Reverting it is going to differently break a different set of systems
> 
> The only ones that are broken are the Samsung ones.  Samsung claims to
> have fixed their UEFI firmware, so we could refer any problems to them.

No, reverting this gets us back to the old state of refusing any writes 
if more than 50% of the variable store *appears* to be used, regardless 
of whether it's actually used. Which, unfortunately, makes it impossible 
to install Linux on most UEFI machines. In any case, Samsung clearly 
haven't fixed this problem on a pile of machines that have already 
shipped.

> Could we hedge the QueryVariableInfo checks with a test for Samsung in
> the UEFI identity strings?

We could, but apparently some Lenovos also have a similar problem. We 
just don't have the information we need to implement a comprehensive 
blacklist, and if we get it wrong we're back to destroying people's 
hardware.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-31 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 16:27 [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code Russ Anderson
     [not found] ` <20130522162747.GA20816-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-23 11:58   ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]     ` <20130523115801.GJ14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-23 20:32       ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]         ` <20130523203234.GD20913-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24  7:43           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <20130524074331.GL14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 11:09               ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                 ` <20130524110911.GA32220-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 11:40                   ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 16:11               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                 ` <20130524161111.GE3672-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 17:02                   ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                     ` <20130524170214.GA30179-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 21:05                       ` Dave Jones
     [not found]                         ` <20130524210534.GA15466-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-27  4:27                           ` joeyli
     [not found]                             ` <1369628832.19026.22.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-27  4:32                               ` joeyli
2013-05-28  2:43                               ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:05               ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                 ` <20130524200539.GA3322-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24 20:11                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-24 20:49                     ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                       ` <20130524204937.GB3322-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-28 10:50                         ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 10:53                   ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28  8:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-29 21:01               ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                 ` <20130529210115.GC28027-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:22                   ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1305300018180.1111-1ReQVI26iDCaZKY3DrU6dA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:46                       ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                         ` <20130529224645.GA16582-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:53                           ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                             ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305300048520.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30  2:16                               ` joeyli
     [not found]                                 ` <1369880172.17397.11.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:17                                   ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                     ` <20130530221737.GA11105-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:21                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 22:28                                         ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                           ` <20130530222836.GB11105-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 22:30                                             ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305310029560.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31  2:17                                                 ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                                   ` <20130531021749.GA24287-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31  3:28                                                     ` joeyli
2013-05-30 22:32                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31  2:54                                               ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 10:06                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-30 22:25                                       ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305310023020.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 10:12                                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                             ` <20130531101250.GD30394-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:06                                               ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                                                 ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1305311259520.30576-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:40                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130531114037.GC7131-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 11:54                                                       ` Josh Boyer
2013-05-31 12:30                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130531123015.GC17843-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 12:43                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130531124356.GA8212-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:34                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                             ` <20130531143425.GA5850-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:42                                                               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1370011357.1913.15.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:45                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 14:48                                                                   ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-05-31 15:43                                                                     ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20130531154348.GA17145-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 16:28                                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20130531162815.GA8082-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 17:35                                                                             ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 22:57                                                                             ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20130531225730.GB14752-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 22:59                                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 23:30                                                                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-06-01  0:03                                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20130601000311.GA15126-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01  4:20                                                                                     ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20130601042058.GB15199-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01  4:41                                                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-01 11:01                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                                 ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1306011956350.9068-OR3hLWCBCApQetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-01 14:40                                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30  2:38                           ` joeyli
2013-05-23 22:23       ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]         ` <20130523222321.GB31880-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-24  7:45           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <20130524074544.GM14575-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 20:16               ` Russ Anderson
     [not found]                 ` <20130529201616.GB28027-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-31 14:41                   ` H. Peter Anvin

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